Games/Game Series you'd like to see MP added to

[Jak]

So I thought of this interesting topic when I (re) thought of how literal god-like the potential Jak's series has at being far beyond that of typically good/successful tacked on MP game, including The Last of Us and Uncharted. It'd be more on the prominent levels of MMOs with the leveling up system, level design, and over-world features/interactivity.

 

Anyways, what game or game series do you feel would implement a MP mode well, successfully, or it'd make sense? If you want to talk about how other related MP aspects like online leaderboards - (PSN) Sonic Adventure 2, (PS3) Sonic Generations, (Remastered) Uncharted Trilogy, and Just Cause 3 - would be better instead, that's fine, but the main discussion here is online competitive PvP MP and/or coop (excluding campaign coop, the majority claimed complaint with campaign coop in games, however, as that's the only type of coop that can truly interfere with the actual development and execution of the story mode in a game), so make sure to make it known what perspective you're speaking from.

 

Mines:

 

Jak and Daxter Collection (PS3): Well considering how many high-score tabs there are for recorded scores for different events - Zoomer races (multiple types), NYFE races (multiple types), JET-BOARD Stadium, Gun Course (multiple types), Turret mini game, and so, so much more - an online leaderboard feature would have been nice. Sonic Adventure 2 (along with Sonic The Hedgehog 2 PSN) and the remastered Uncharted Collection got it, so you can't say it's a stupid idea.

 

Dragon Ball Z Budokai Collection (PS3): Could have had PvP MP mode added to it easily. It was even a highly requested feature, but we didn't get it. Not only would the sales have been much higher but the replay-value value would have increased tenfold if it was given pvp MP. The offline MP was solid and praised, and the franchise has had online play implemented in every single last gen DB game since Burst Limit, so there has been yrs worth of time of experience with online play and a decently big gap from when BL released and the remastered BC released.

 

Jak Sequel/Jak's franchise: There is insanely immense potential with a Jak MP (with there being low-key, single player, often well implemented AI related team up segments throughout the last two major games, ranging from escorts to rescues to survival to protect to kicking ass together), which would easily far exceed The Last of Us and Uncharted combined, and be on a level of that rivaling MMOs. You have the more than sufficient currency system also - Precursor Orbs, Metal Head Skull Gems, Power Cells, Eco, etc - then game play variety - in-game store, game-modes - racing, survival, escort, rescue, protect, etc, weapons, upgrades, skills, gadgets, etc. There's plenty of motivation, ideas, and sense behind a MP in the fictional world of Jak, undeniably... it just comes down to would people welcome it or not. Could become one of the finest MPs alongside GTA, Borderlands, and more. And since ND would be in charge of the MP, there would be no major fuck up or horribly implemented MP.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Mar

[LetsTurnJu-On]

To be perfectly honest. None.

 

Without multiplayer devs can work on creating the best single player experience (as shown recently in Witcher, Ratchet and Clank). "MOST" of the time when they're adding in multiplayer (unless it's just co-op story stuff), the single player story takes a hit in quality and quite frankly often results in an average single player experience and not a fun multiplayer one either.  

 

Also, you can often tell in games which mode the devs care about. Call of Duty, you can tell the devs don't give 2 shits for the single player stuff. The campaigns are barely 5 hours long and just brain numbing to play nowadays. Which is fine, but it makes me wonder if the publisher agreed they'd quite happily just  drop the single player stuff of a cliff.

 

All in all, personally for me, I wish devs would choose 1 path and make that one path amazing, or at the very least take more time to make both paths great. I feel too many games' single player has taken a hit because they've been forced to chuck on some shitty MP mode.

Edited June 3, 2016 by LetsTurnJu-On

[Spinach]

I'd say add MP only if there are no bloody MP trophies, so that MP is optional (:

Edited June 3, 2016 by Lord Bolton

[Conker]

None

 

since a lot of games that get this really don't need this like Tomb Raider and Batman Arkham Origins 

Edited June 3, 2016 by Jare

[Mournblade05143]

To be perfectly honest. None.

 

Without multiplayer devs can work on creating the best single player experience (as shown recently in Witcher, Ratchet and Clank). "MOST" of the time when they're adding in multiplayer (unless it's just co-op story stuff), the single player story takes a hit in quality and quite frankly often results in an average single player experience and not a fun multiplayer one either.  

 

Also, you can often tell in games which mode the devs care about. Call of Duty, you can tell the devs don't give 2 shits for the single player stuff. The campaigns are barely 5 hours long and just brain numbing to play nowadays. Which is fine, but it makes me wonder if the publisher agreed they'd quite happily just  drop the single player stuff of a cliff.

 

All in all, personally for me, I wish devs would choose 1 path and make that one path amazing, or at the very least take more time to make both paths great. I feel too many games' single player has taken a hit because they've been forced to chuck on some shitty MP mode.

 

I agree 100 percent. Hate it when these MP portions seem like afterthoughts. Wouldn't mind so much there were no trophies but in any case they detract resources from the SP. Or vice versa with your COD example.

[AdventCloud7]

I think drop-in/drop-out co-op is great for the beat 'em ups and team-oriented games like Dead Space 3 (but DS1-2 were better). Utilizing the feature to play with friends all assuming the different members of Sly's gang in the Sly Cooper series would be cool.

But that's co-op. So as far as PvP MP, I'm not on board with it unless the game's a shooter or a fighter.

Edited June 4, 2016 by AdventCloud7

[Satoshi Ookami]

None. But I would love to remove MP from many games.

[sephiroth70001]

I agree for the most part with devs focusing on just one aspect and trying to polish that as much as possible. Though their are some games where i thought multiplayer would be bad and aweful which is what happens and gets shoe horned in. Dark souls though had been a game format i thought would suffer form PvP and be a waste of time in concept. Though in actuality i think the PvP from the souls series is fantastic and a great addition.

[BlindMango]

Me and a friend were talking recently about how cool it would be if Metal Gear Solid V's story (or even just its open world side missions) had co-op where your friends could jump into your world and you could play together. That would be epic.

Edited June 3, 2016 by BlindMango

[helicene]

As many have already stated, none. And there are several games I'd cheerfully remove MP from, as well. I wouldn't mind it so much if they didn't have trophies that clutter up my profile and inevitably will drag down my completion percentage - I'm not playing game modes I loathe just to get 100%. I'm stuck just ignoring their existence.

I'd agree about MP being tacked on to some primarily SP games and vice versa, with the CoD example... except I'm one of the extremely few people who buy CoD for the campaign and never touch MP.

I guess in an ideal world there'd be separate trophy pages for MP and SP for the games that have both.

[Matto_lsi]

Absolutely none.  I don't mind there being an online mode, but when most have trophies tied to the MP portion of the game - trophies that must be boosted a couple months after launch cause the community is dead; trophies that can no longer be earned as soon as 6 months to a year after launch cause servers get shut down so fast to make way for the next 'uber 1337 online hordez survival bro' mode - it makes me hesitant to even start the game.  I'd rather all games have a primary SP focus, and if MP gets added, it should be a separate, trophyless (or DLC trophy only) content add-on.  But it I personally could choose, I'd remove MP from games that obviously don't need it, like the AC series, Splinter Cell, or any stealth-based gameplay.  Leave MP in for the COD kids and other FPS's and keep SP games focused on what's important.

[Bullstomp]

None, online mp has been added to so many games needlessly iit has completely soured my opinion to mp as a whole. Jare mentioned Batman: Origins and Tomb Raider as games with awful mp, and those are great examples. I'd like to add Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Plus (Vita/ mp trophies impossible to obtain, plat is @ 0%)and WWE 2K15(2K JUST CLOSED THE SERVERS)

[Saionji]

To be perfectly honest. None.

 

Without multiplayer devs can work on creating the best single player experience (as shown recently in Witcher, Ratchet and Clank). "MOST" of the time when they're adding in multiplayer (unless it's just co-op story stuff), the single player story takes a hit in quality and quite frankly often results in an average single player experience and not a fun multiplayer one either.  

 

Also, you can often tell in games which mode the devs care about. Call of Duty, you can tell the devs don't give 2 shits for the single player stuff. The campaigns are barely 5 hours long and just brain numbing to play nowadays. Which is fine, but it makes me wonder if the publisher agreed they'd quite happily just  drop the single player stuff of a cliff.

 

All in all, personally for me, I wish devs would choose 1 path and make that one path amazing, or at the very least take more time to make both paths great. I feel too many games' single player has taken a hit because they've been forced to chuck on some shitty MP mode.

 

Well said, I agree with you completely except that the campaign in Call of Duty 4 was pretty epic but later games were just good in my opinion.

[IntenseFATE98]

I would prefer a game with lots of single player content than a game with MP. I'm not a huge fan of MP, so none. I would love it if devs added more content for the single player part of the game from time to time. (Different SP game modes, stuff to explore etc)

[Beyondthegrave07]

Star Fox 3DS could use an online versus mode What's the point of a multiplayer mode with local only?

I also wouldn't mind being able to do some item world plundering with a friend on Disgaea.

Everything else. No.

No on Kingdom Hearts

No on Final Fantasy XV

No on Persona

It's just not necessary IMO and doesn't add anything to the experience most of the time.

[DaivRules]

None. Leaderboards only tend to cater to the ultra-competitive and with the exception of a few outliers, those people tend to tire quickly and move on, abandoning the game altogether.

 

Leave MP to MOBA's, MMO's and FPS games that tend to have little to no story.

 

The only type of MP I like is couch co-op, but seems like developers largely abandoned it when PS3 came out in favor of everyone buying their own PS3 and never seeing each other IRL. Yeah, I said it. Online MP is the reason the terrorists are winning! (Follow that logic, if you dare.)

[damon8r351]

Journey PvP mode:

[Zenpai]

None. I've always been a single-player only gamer, so I've never really had a need for multiplayer modes.

 

Recently, developers feel like every game "needs" to have a multiplayer mode, even those where the single player experience is the main attraction, but that kind of tacked-on multiplayer just takes away resources from the single-player experience, which I think should always be given priority to. Local and even online multiplayer for games like fighters and shooters I have no problem with, since it's exactly the same game, with the exception you're battling a real live person instead of the AI, but apart from that, I don't even think multiplayer modes should exist. Most of the time, they just feel like a different game tacked on the same disk as the main experience.

 

Co-op multiplayer is okay, but I think it should always be optional and never a requirement (i.e. you should be able to clear the mission by yourself or with the AI if you want to). And online trophies are a definite no-no. You no longer depend only on yourself, have to put up with a lot of stupid people and cheat-using idiots and can only even get them as long as both the servers are online and the community is active.

 

 

(Geez, Mar, this conversation definitely isn't going the way you hoped, is it? )

[Daniel_Shadow170]

Can't think of many games to add MP to On PlayStation however any game with multiplayer should have a leaderboard I want to know who the best players in the world are. Destiny is a game that would've benefited greatly from that.

[PooPooBlast]

None

since a lot of games that get this really don't need this like Tomb Raider and Batman Arkham Origins

I couldn't agree more. The Batman origins online made me cry... I finished I am the night mode thinking I could platinun, it , then bam! Reach max level in all factions, win in all maps, and some crazy clutch trophies that nobody can get unless u have godlike skills. So disappointed.

[Jak]

EDIT: I could understand where some people are coming from when they said why they wouldn't want it in some games, but a lot of those who said "None" I find to not be actually taking the time to sit down and thoroughly think about it, especially given coop, pvp, and online leaderboard are all options here, as opposed to just pvp, the (I think) most disliked mode and addition to games. A lot of games would be pretty fine with just coop for example, pvp is not forced or needed alongside coop.

 

Furthermore, im sure there are other games more people here could actually recommend. I brought up a great example with the Dragon Ball Z Budokai Collection, which undeniably should have and would have a welcomed MP Mode. Just Cause 3 Coop? Just roaming the world blowing stuff up and what not (like I believe Mecendaries did, an extremely similar series to JC), especially in a series with a poor story, storyline, character development, and so fourth. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle? Sackboy's Prehistoric Move (especially to make that damn local MP related trophy much easier to get)? Etc. "None" is clearly a lazy and close-minded answer-- there's an immense selection of games out there.

 

I also didn't consider the trophy hunter perspective. Didn't think that would actually have people not wanting MP in games. I basically just, for argument sake, had this topic in perspective that there wouldn't be super grindy and various MP trophies (which some MP games have done).

 

None. I've always been a single-player only gamer, so I've never really had a need for multiplayer modes.

 

Recently, developers feel like every game "needs" to have a multiplayer mode, even those where the single player experience is the main attraction, but that kind of tacked-on multiplayer just takes away resources from the single-player experience, which I think should always be given priority to. Local and even online multiplayer for games like fighters and shooters I have no problem with, since it's exactly the same game, with the exception you're battling a real live person instead of the AI, but apart from that, I don't even think multiplayer modes should exist. Most of the time, they just feel like a different game tacked on the same disk as the main experience.

 

Co-op multiplayer is okay, but I think it should always be optional and never a requirement (i.e. you should be able to clear the mission by yourself or with the AI if you want to). And online trophies are a definite no-no. You no longer depend only on yourself, have to put up with a lot of stupid people and cheat-using idiots and can only even get them as long as both the servers are online and the community is active.

 

 

(Geez, Mar, this conversation definitely isn't going the way you hoped, is it? )

 

With bias like this ("None. I'm a single player guy, so I have no need for MP Modes.") I don't find the reason to participate in the conversation. It doesn't add discussion value, and your personal dislike for MP in general clearly does not make your comment even capable of debating over. This is the kind of topic someone like you would ignore, since you're not someone who likes MP or enjoys it (especially enough to give a rational explanation behind not having it in "any" game without MP) and then gives reason as to why you wouldn't want it in certain games. You dislike MP in general as a whole, so you can't really have a discussion with someone without automatically-disagreeing and being narrow-minded (aside from shooters/racers, the easy executable MP games) about it. So I was looking for people who enjoy MP Modes but can give actual rational reasons as to why it would and would not work in certain games/game series.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Mar

[Thrintus]

I would have loved a co-op mode in Skyrim (or any TES game, for that matter). ESO plays like a cheap clone of GW2, so don't even mention that. 

[willmill97]

 Call of Duty, you can tell the devs don't give 2 shits for the single player stuff. The campaigns are barely 5 hours long and just brain numbing to play nowadays..

 

Have you even played any of the campaigns? 

[thegirlruka]

None. But I would love to remove MP from many games.

Great minds think alike.

[LetsTurnJu-On]

Have you even played any of the campaigns? 

I stopped playing CoD after MW3.. I would consider going back if they weren't going really stupid with this futuristic stuff.

CoD Finest Hour was so good. Big Red One too. After that they were never that great to me.