COVID-19 Megathread

[Dr_Mayus]

This, this is why Trump cannot be allowed to speak at these things anymore. Now Trump didn't actually say to drink bleach but the first guy talked about bleach killing Covid-19 and then Trump talked about possibly injecting disinfectant.

 

His supporters listen to him and they may hear "bleach and rubbing alcohol kills Covid-19, the president said they are looking at testing on injection...I could inject bleach or rubbing alcohol to kill covid-19"

 

 Now you might think that is a huge leap of logic...but desperate people leap logic all the time.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216

 

Trump should come out and introduce the experts and then just let them talk. If they actually find a topic he is qualified to answer (like how to bankrupt 3 casinos) then he can talk.

[starcrunch061]

12 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Trump should come out and introduce the experts and then just let them talk. If they actually find a topic he is qualified to answer (like how to bankrupt 3 casinos) then he can talk.

 

...or an entire football league. That one was actually worse - the USFL had just gotten a sweet contract offer, but listened to DJT.

[Dr_Mayus]

2 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

...or an entire football league. That one was actually worse - the USFL had just gotten a sweet contract offer, but listened to DJT.

See he has a host of things he can talk about...just not medical advice

[RadiantFlamberge]

An "injection of disinfectant"? Really now? I think that's the stupidest idea he's ever come up with. Unbelievable, even coming from him.

 

Trump is too eager to bet it all on hydroxychloroquine. Hold it! HCQ and CQ are actually pretty toxic drugs with a risk of blindness, along with some potentially lethal side effects, and not proven to help against C19. Reports that HCQ can reduce the amount of C19 virus are seriously flawed... the studies they're from don't have a valid control group, and they lack proper scientific review. I wouldn't touch this stuff with a 10 foot pole.

 

3 hours ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Trump should come out and introduce the experts and then just let them talk. If they actually find a topic he is qualified to answer (like how to bankrupt 3 casinos) then he can talk.

Exactly this.

[MidnightDragon]

6 hours ago, Dr_Mayus said:

This, this is why Trump cannot be allowed to speak at these things anymore. Now Trump didn't actually say to drink bleach but the first guy talked about bleach killing Covid-19 and then Trump talked about possibly injecting disinfectant.

 

His supporters listen to him and they may hear "bleach and rubbing alcohol kills Covid-19, the president said they are looking at testing on injection...I could inject bleach or rubbing alcohol to kill covid-19"

 

 Now you might think that is a huge leap of logic...but desperate people leap logic all the time.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216

 

Trump should come out and introduce the experts and then just let them talk. If they actually find a topic he is qualified to answer (like how to bankrupt 3 casinos) then he can talk.

If he’s so sure it’ll work, he should try it. And some idiot will probably drink bleach in the next few days and we’ll hear about it.

 

And he did for the first couple days. Now he subs it for his rallies.

Edited April 24, 2020 by MidnightDragon

[panikooooos]

I like how "COVID-19 Megathread" became orange man bad circlejerk but I guess they don't call it trump derangement syndrome for nothing ?

[Dr_Mayus]

1 hour ago, panikooooos said:

I like how "COVID-19 Megathread" became orange man bad circlejerk but I guess they don't call it trump derangement syndrome for nothing 

Well he is in charge of the country that is responsible for 25% of the global deaths of Covid19. He also has made and continues to make decisions that go against all experts that endanger more lives around him. Most of us are North American which means his decisions affect our lives. 

 

So my question is...why shouldnt we be talking about him? If he doesnt want people talking and saying  bad things about him then he can stop going on TV every day spreading misinformation and attacking journalists for doing their job.

[panikooooos]

2 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

Well he is in charge of the country that is responsible for 25% of the global deaths of Covid19. He also has made and continues to make decisions that go against all experts that endanger more lives around him. Most of us are North American which means his decisions affect our lives. 

 

So my question is...why shouldnt we be talking about him? If he doesnt want people talking and saying  bad things about him then he can stop going on TV every day spreading misinformation and attacking journalists for doing their job.

25% of the global deaths of Covid19, imagine actually believing this. So you believe the narrative of China from December through April, having 80k cases... ? A country of 1.4 billion people has 1/10 the cases of the US, sure that makes sense. Not to mention even if America had 25% of global deaths of Covid it wouldn't mean anything because it's one of the biggest countries of the world population wise, you have to factor in testing  and population per capita, the fact that americans already have underlying diseases like obesity, the age makeup of america which I'm pretty sure you already know but wanna go with Drumpf bad narratives. All the "arguments" are reaching so hard, oh he mentioned hydroxychloroquine as a possible treatment for covid and a democrat without covid went ahead and drank fish tank cleaner, therefore orange man bad, like seriously? And last thing you are from Canada, why don't you talk about Justin "Open borders man" Trudeau, waiting up until his wife got Corona till he shut down the borders, unlike Trump who shut down flights with China in January 29, really makes you think huh..

[ProfBambam55]

1 hour ago, panikooooos said:

And last thing you are from Canada, why don't you talk about Justin "Open borders man" Trudeau... 

i wouldn't bother arguing with a canadian about american politics if I were you...much less one who is from a province of 1.7 mil population known mainly for polar bears, northern lights, parks, and hockey which contributes about 3% to its own country's gdp claiming that your economy affects them greatly...i hear it's also popular there to gaze over your neighbour's fence and say things like "I don't like those blue flowers you planted, it degrades my home's value"...

 

in canada, we basically have 0 reputable right wing news sources so everything is "donald trump is bad" propaganda...take the earlier mentioned case...a french canadian reporter asked trump something like "when will you open the canadian border again?" to which he replied (paraphrasing here) "I don't know but canada will be the first border we reopen since we have a special relationship with you" which the media spun as "he wants to reopen the border now" and the public's imagination went wild with it...little did our citizens realize that the u.s. prioritizing the border between us is actually excellent news for the canadian economy...and yes, all in due time...

 

all in all, I would say please just ignore us canadians' view of your country's politics...most of us are too busy yelling "we're all in this together" as we do our best to shut down and shame anyone who might disagree with our actions and views...haha...

Edited April 24, 2020 by ProfBambam55

[Ryudi1998]

In Brazil, the President wants everyone on the streets asap (he himself doesn't wear mask and goes wild to the public), but the governors disagree w/ it (thnks god)

 

The minister of health was dismissed(because he was in favor of the quarantine)/ The minister of Justice and Public Security will possibly resign soon(he resign)

 

People are dying at the doormat of the hospitals, literally (There aren't any slots for anyone)/ And the president plans to end quarantine  May,10

 

The government stopped to give us info about what they are doing against the virus as soon as they replaced the minister of health/ Fake news alert, as there aren't official publishment

 

The government also have been giving  U$107,44 per mounth for three mounths to poor people in general, but many people are suffering to even receive this.

 

People aren't obeying the quarantine as well (only 48% are at home) so... We deserve our broken politcs.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Ryudi1998

[Dr_Mayus]

Well at least with the weather warming up a bit I can finally get outside into my yard again. Being cooped up in the house because the weather was at -10 for the last week has sucked

 

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Dr_Mayus

[damon8r351]

I for one support Donald Trump's household disinfectant ingestion initiative. If you're stupid enough to not connect 2 and 2 and come to the conclusion why it might be a bad idea, then by all means drink bleach to rid the human gene pool of your nonsense.

[MidnightDragon]

Now he’s trying to claim it was a joke. Right...it’s bad if Lysol had to say “don’t ingest our products”. 

[jackmadrox]

What is worse? Covid 19 or The Spanish Flu of 1918?

[Dreakon13]

On 4/24/2020 at 6:00 PM, damon8r351 said:

I for one support Donald Trump's household disinfectant ingestion initiative. If you're stupid enough to not connect 2 and 2 and come to the conclusion why it might be a bad idea, then by all means drink bleach to rid the human gene pool of your nonsense.

 

I mean, we were all thinking it... but it's nice to see someone say it.

 

EDIT: Unlike lockdown protesters going out, getting sick, dying and/or bringing COVID-19 back to their families and communities... this seems like a clean, wholesome way to get rid of some of the stupid.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Dreakon13

[MooseSketts]

For the people who are against reopening... businesses have already gone under or started to fail because of the shutdown.  I'm wondering if when this is "over" if I'm still going to have a job - and I've never stopped working since this crisis began.  Hell, I'm working a 40+ work week and only getting paid 32 hours just so the company can stay afloat.

[Dr_Mayus]

1 hour ago, MooseSketts said:

For the people who are against reopening... businesses have already gone under or started to fail because of the shutdown.  I'm wondering if when this is "over" if I'm still going to have a job - and I've never stopped working since this crisis began.  Hell, I'm working a 40+ work week and only getting paid 32 hours just so the company can stay afloat.

But with all the strict provisions there were still over 50,000 deaths in your country alone in about 5 weeks. Imagine if those restrictions were not there? There were stimulus bills but it is unfortunate that big business snatched most of the money up.

 

When this is over, people will have to make a real effort to shop locally. Yes, Amazon and Walmart are easier but they have shown that they don't care about people and when push comes to shove they will use and dispose of whatever to enrich themselves (not just those two companies but they are the biggest).

 

I have seen so many status updates in the past where people were happy that a certain Brick and Mortar store went under. Telling people to "move into the future". Well the future kind of sucks when there is no jobs? Maybe a Basic Income is the only way to go.

[PhyrxianLibrarin]

1 hour ago, MooseSketts said:

For the people who are against reopening... businesses have already gone under or started to fail because of the shutdown.  I'm wondering if when this is "over" if I'm still going to have a job - and I've never stopped working since this crisis began.  Hell, I'm working a 40+ work week and only getting paid 32 hours just so the company can stay afloat.

 

I don't think people are against reopening; they think it's too soon to re-open because it will lead to a huge spike in cases. There's no point to saving the economy if we're all too dead to enjoy it.

 

Planet Money did a really good episode on how economists measure the "value" of a human life to determine whether it's worth it to implement safety measures. By their estimation, even if the economy stays in lockdown for like 3-4 months, that's _still_ better overall than relaxing it now and causing tens of thousands of vulnerable people to die.

[Dr_Mayus]

2 hours ago, PhyrxianLibrarin said:

 

I don't think people are against reopening; they think it's too soon to re-open because it will lead to a huge spike in cases. There's no point to saving the economy if we're all too dead to enjoy it.

 

Planet Money did a really good episode on how economists measure the "value" of a human life to determine whether it's worth it to implement safety measures. By their estimation, even if the economy stays in lockdown for like 3-4 months, that's _still_ better overall than relaxing it now and causing tens of thousands of vulnerable people to die.

Or to quote Fight Club

 

 

[AJ_Radio]

On 4/24/2020 at 0:09 AM, panikooooos said:

I like how "COVID-19 Megathread" became orange man bad circlejerk but I guess they don't call it trump derangement syndrome for nothing 

 

I can’t fucking stand Trump. I still read his Twitter from time to time. He spews the stupidest, most fucking outlandish statements I have heard from any man. 

 

Sometimes I think he makes Ted Nugent and Alex Jones look like cute innocent little puppies in comparison. And we all know where their priorities lie. 

 

America has certainly hit rock bottom. When you got shitheads like Trump and Alex given a voice, it’s no wonder the USA is in the shithouse. 

[MooseSketts]

7 hours ago, Dr_Mayus said:

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Yes, the death toll would have been higher; however, my main concern now is what kind of states, socially and economically in particular, our countries will be in when this is "over".

Are people really happy that certain stores have closed???  That is absolutely ludicrous!  (I do not have social media anymore)

 

7 hours ago, PhyrxianLibrarin said:

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I'll have to check them out whenever I get the time.  Not sure when that will be though.

 

[Dr_Mayus]

1 minute ago, MooseSketts said:

 

Yes, the death toll would have been higher; however, my main concern now is what kind of states, socially and economically in particular, our countries will be in when this is "over".

Are people really happy that certain stores have closed???  That is absolutely ludicrous!  (I do not have social media anymore)

 

 

I'll have to check them out whenever I get the time.  Not sure when that will be though.

 

Well hopefully people understand that "the stock market is doing great" is not actually a sign that the economy is doing great. If 1% own all the money then that doesn't help anyone below that 1% when shit goes down.

 

And it isn't even social media. It is status updates on this very site where people complain about Amazon not getting them their game the day it comes out when they could just go to one of dozens of stores that sell that very game.

 

Just a few years ago I could walk to at least 3 stores that sold games and could drive within 5 minutes of my apartment to 10 stores (Eb Game, Eb Games, Futureshop, Bestbuy, Superstore, Toys R Us, The Source, Walmart, HMV, Blockbuster)  that sold the same game...but people like the convenience of ordering online and so slowly these stores went away.

 

Just think I used to work for Sony from 2010-2012. On my list of stores I had 54 locations to visit and that didn't include HMV, Blockbuster and Rogers Video (all of which had at least a dozen stores each in Winnipeg). Now if I had worked for them that list would be down to about 27 locations total (Walmart, Best Buy, Toys R Us and EB Games) and all the Blockbusters/HMVs/Rogers are gone. And those are big chain stores that are gone, the stores like Star Time, Renegade, Microplay, Videostop, etc are gone way before them

And we are just talking games/movies here.

 

COVID-19 didn't kill small business. Our laziness did. We would rather have the ease of a Walmart, Ikea, Amazon etc because it is cheaper and quicker to do it. Look at Disney, they own pretty much all of movies now. What is their incentive to make new and original titles anymore? Sure a Coco will slip through every now and then but basically we just get MCU, Star Wars and Disney Remakes because they are guaranteed big money makers.

 

The world we are leaving our kids is a sad one at that.

 

 

[damon8r351]

I was looking at some paperwork of mine earlier involving some appointments that I went to, that coincided with the very beginning of the shutdown in the US; I remember clearly because I was relieved to get them done before then. You know it's only been little over a month since shit really started hitting the fan and people started taking this seriously? You know, all the lockdowns and closures happening? Been a long month for you all, hasn't it?

[RadiantFlamberge]

On 4/25/2020 at 0:14 AM, MidnightDragon said:

Now he’s trying to claim it was a joke. Right...it’s bad if Lysol had to say “don’t ingest our products”. 

I know. After seeing the flack storm, he's trying to cop out. If anyone really, truly believes it was sarcasm... I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them. Trump's statement is not very becoming of his position. Those words would never have left the lips of a proper president. I feel sorry for poor Barron having that man as his father.

 

Hopefully in November, Trump will have to start cleaning out his desk to make way for Biden. Pretty much anyone else > Trump.

[Dr_Mayus]

1 hour ago, damon8r351 said:

I was looking at some paperwork of mine earlier involving some appointments that I went to, that coincided with the very beginning of the shutdown in the US; I remember clearly because I was relieved to get them done before then. You know it's only been little over a month since shit really started hitting the fan and people started taking this seriously? You know, all the lockdowns and closures happening? Been a long month for you all, hasn't it?

March 16th I ran my last charity event. March 17th we were sent home from work. March 22nd I spent my birthday alone.

 

Yeah that entire week felt like a month