The confirm button on PS5 will be X instead of O going forward in Japan

[Ghost]

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"Due to such circumstances, in the past, PlayStation often broke up with "◯" decisions for Japanese games and "×" decisions for Western games. You can switch between them in your system settings, but not all games follow, and playing games on your PC or Xbox was confusing.

This time, in SIE, "x" will be decided in all settings including Japanese games. It can be seen that this is suitable for Europe and the United States, but it has a strong meaning of "to avoid changing the buttons used between the system and the game in an environment where games from multiple countries are played. (SIE public relations)"

 

AV Watch - https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fav.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fseries%2Frt%2F1280705.html&sandbox=1

[Greenshyguy]

After playing so many Japanese games, I forgot that this was one main difference to Western games.

[Lord_Bane999]

I personally never really ran into this issue much because usually games will default to whatever the devs prefered settings are over your console settings for control. Though there is the occasional game, the uses the system defined controls.

[Elvick_]

What Japanese gamers were asking for this?

[SSenpai_I]

14 minutes ago, Elvick_ said:

What Japanese gamers were asking for this?

Well, mainly Visual Novel creators

Edited October 4, 2020 by OmerSenpai

[JoniP]

MEGATON!

[Venocide]

Sony continue to piss off Japanese gamers lol 

[Super-Fly Spider-Guy]

We did it, boys! Finally, those Japanese fuckers will do it the right way, the American way, just the way the PlayStation was always intended.

[Conor]

Wow another huge cock up for Sony. Switching to Xbox.

 

/s

[You]

<Muscle memory crying noises>

[ZN-42-VS]

In my opinion it is better and less confusing. I say chapeau to Sony.

[Soraking1991]

I agree that it's better if it's standardised across all PlayStation.

However, I disagree that X = OK. In no other context in life it's like this.

And for the Japanese people, who use O and X in their everyday life (we usually use a checkmark instead of O to mean OK), this is going to be complete mindf*ck.

 

If I had to choose how to make it standard, I would've gone the other way. O = OK, X = Cancel.

[scemopagliaccioh]

Oh I remember having troubles back then with the ps2 versions of Kingdom Hearts final mixes, as long as you can customize the controller,  it's no big deal.

[HellcoreFire]

I'm glad it's cross instead of circle now. No more confusion. Now to get rid of that unneeded inverted nonsense too. Down is down, up is up.

[ZN-42-VS]

48 minutes ago, Soraking1991 said:

I agree that it's better if it's standardised across all PlayStation.

However, I disagree that X = OK. In no other context in life it's like this.

And for the Japanese people, who use O and X in their everyday life (we usually use a checkmark instead of O to mean OK), this is going to be complete mindf*ck.

 

If I had to choose how to make it standard, I would've gone the other way. O = OK, X = Cancel.

Normally it is Press X to confirm or X to continue, so why change it all of a sudden? 

[Sikutai]

X was always the OK/Join Button and O was always the Cancel/Back Button since the beginning of time. And it will ever be.

 

29 minutes ago, HellcoreFire said:

.Down is down, up is up.

 

NOBODY plays so. Down is Up and will always be.

Edited October 5, 2020 by Sikutai

[Soraking1991]

1 hour ago, ZN-42-VS said:

Normally it is Press X to confirm or X to continue, so why change it all of a sudden? 

That is true for all PlayStations other than the Japanese. On their behalf you could say the same thing: "it has always been O to confirm, so why change it all of a sudden?". They even use those symbols with those meanings in their everyday life (outside PlayStation).

 

Again, outside of PlayStation, we use X to say "no" or "cancel" in everything we do (especially online).

 

Worldwide: 

YES => ✅ => 

NO => ❎ => 

 

Japan:

YES => ⭕ => 

NO => ❌ => 

 

 

Given that PlayStation has decided to change this, I would make it so that we ignore what we've known for forever (in PlayStation) and change it to what makes more sense in this world of symbols we live in.

Edited October 5, 2020 by Soraking1991

[turniplord]

1 hour ago, HellcoreFire said:

I'm glad it's cross instead of circle now. No more confusion. Now to get rid of that unneeded inverted nonsense too. Down is down, up is up.

Quite the opposite. They need to add an option in the console settings that lets you turn on invert so that all games read that and apply it by default.

There's a very large percentage of gamers, myself included, who can only play games inverted - non-inverted is 'wrong' and mechanically not correct. Thankfully, NACON sent me their Unlimited Revolution Pro controller for review a while ago and it lets you invert the axis' at a hardware level with the flick of a switch. So, if any games don't support inverted Y, I can do it via the controller

[Erkawest]

Lmao, I've played several Japanese games but never thought of this, recently finished 'Jump Force' a few days ago and yeah, it's confusing when you're playing both western and eastern games in a short period of time. But tbh, didn't bother me too much

[AlchemistWer]

This is actually very easy to understand, in Japan  "Maru" (circle in japanese) japanese people always use "Maru" when something is correct and they actually do the form of maru with their arms or with a random toy.

In other hand if something is wrong or you did a mistake they say "batsu" (罰) which mean "penalty" and the ilustration of "batsu" is a

Spoiler

 

 

[Lianco]

1 hour ago, HellcoreFire said:

I'm glad it's cross instead of circle now. No more confusion. Now to get rid of that unneeded inverted nonsense too. Down is down, up is up.

smh, 'cross' 

[MandA60VISE]

*Cries in PS1 era*

[JRSC01]

I used to get confused at main menu selection in the original Metal Gear Solid PS1 and wondered why was the controls all back to front lol!

[DEI2EK]

9 minutes ago, MandA60VISE said:

*Cries in PS1 era*

Final Fantasy 7 on PS1 says hello

[Elvick_]

1 hour ago, Soraking1991 said:

That is true for all PlayStations other than the Japanese. On their behalf you could say the same thing: "it has always been O to confirm, so why change it all of a sudden?". They even use those symbols with those meanings in their everyday life (outside PlayStation).

 

Again, outside of PlayStation, we use X to say "no" or "cancel" in everything we do (especially online).

 

Worldwide: 

YES =>  => 

NO =>  => 

 

Japan:

YES =>  => 

NO =>  => 

 

 

Given that PlayStation has decided to change this, I would make it so that we ignore what we've known for forever (in PlayStation) and change it to what makes more sense in this world of symbols we live in.

Because I think SCEA back in the day's decision to change it from Japan was more about placement than the symbols. In most western games the bottom button is confirm, that's 'x' on PS. So...

It makes sense both ways, but for different reasons. Ultimately this is a silly change that nobody wanted. "Wow, now all those Japanese gamers can go back and forth between their Xbox and PlayStation no problem!" ?