Popular Post BlackSquirrell1 Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 I've noticed that there are a few people on this site that are either permanently angry, trolls, or just plain unpleasant when they respond to threads or status updates. Why not a thumbs down or a "was not helpful" option for these people? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaivRules Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BlackSquirrell1 said: I've noticed that there are a few people on this site that are either permanently angry, trolls, or just plain unpleasant when they respond to threads or status updates. Why not a thumbs down or a "was not helpful" option for these people? Giving people a downvote actually encourages trolls to keep trolling and shitposters to keep shitposting. They're getting the attention they're seeking. It's better to ignore them and upvote things you appreciate. Edited October 11, 2020 by DaivRules 58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSquirrell1 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaivRules said: Giving people a downvote actually encourages trolls to keep trolling and shitposters to keep shitposting. They're getting the attention they're seeking. It's better to ignore them and upvote things you appreciate. Makes sense. I can see how some people would abuse that. Thanks for the answer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sergen Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 Could you really trust the members of this website to use a down vote button only for things that actually warrant it? Even the nicest posts would be down voted by trolls who are annoyed by the person making the post. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSquirrell1 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 Coming from the ESO website where it actually seems to work is sad. Didn't realize people felt they need to be so mean to others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ImMagnetz Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 There is a LOT of toxicity on this website. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of lovely people here too, I've met some good friends through this site, but there are also a LOT of buttholes. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExistentialSolid Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 Downvoting can also be destructive to a person's self-esteem. I remember back when the comment sections on IGN had an upvote/downvote feature and, being young, I was always hurt if a comment I posted that I thought was funny or interesting was downvoted. I was afraid of downvotes and tended to comment less often when I did get downvoted. If I had been downvoted to oblivion back then, I'm sure I would have been emotionally distraught and probably never used the site again. Being ignored doesn't hurt nearly as bad as being downvoted. I don't even want to think about how harsh downvoting might be on dispute threads... It might quickly escalate into bullying in some cases. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby_TheLastofUs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Why indeed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavergray Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 It's for the same reason Facebook doesn't have a dislike button. Likes make you want to engage more and stay on the site. Dislikes would upset you and cause you to leave the site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PerryToxteth Posted October 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, ImMagnetz said: There is a LOT of toxicity on this website. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of lovely people here too, I've met some good friends through this site, but there are also a LOT of buttholes. I’d argue the opposite. Over the years, I’ve found the majority of PSNPers to be entertaining, informative, funny, helpful, and good- natured. Criticism posts are usually backed with a version of reasoning. Like all other forums, there are degrees of vitriol and snark, and certain people tend to only post that. But the 100% flame-inducing trolls are almost always called out for it and they usually don’t last long around here. Toxicity seems to be the catch-word of the year 2020 but I don’t find this site to be toxic. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 There's also people who'd find a way to grief others by giving all of their posts downvotes, regardless of content. Being able to see who downvoted others too would create more drama, nasty PMs, etc. Don't get me wrong there's a lot of great people here and I'm sure you (along with several others) would use it properly, @BlackSquirrell1. Unfortunately, it only takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IesuHado Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, BlackSquirrell1 said: I've noticed that there are a few people on this site that are either permanently angry, trolls, or just plain unpleasant when they respond to threads or status updates. Why not a thumbs down or a "was not helpful" option for these people? For the same reason you want it. Think it upside down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidou Kuzunoha XIV Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) I've never been a big fan of sites that have down vote options (or any kind of voting options tbh, but I'm indifferent to the one on here). On Reddit, it often seems to just cause people to retreat back to subs where they get upvoted, discouraging them from engaging in certain debates and discussions, and kinda creates small echo chambers. And I can't say I blame them since having low karma actually prevents you from posting in some subs, it's just all the worse that your internet points actually matter to some extent on there. I can kinda understand it, someone with negative karma is someone you might wanna watch out for since they may be a troll or whatever, but I would like to think efficient modding and auto-modding would be more than enough to reduce/prevent trolling or brigading. I generally just don't think down votes are a good idea, they can cause certain posts to be hidden (on sites like Reddit anyway), they can cause people to make alts just to target a certain person, they can actually encourage trolling in some circumstances, etc. And as @ExistentialSolid said, being down voted can just discourage people from even bothering to take part in any future topics. It might seem silly to some being upset over people disliking your internet comment, but some people are more insecure or sensitive than others, and kids especially are more likely to take it to heart. If you don't like something someone said, just ignore it and move on. Or argue with it, civilly. If someone is trying to troll, replying or reacting to it is just giving them what they want more often than not anyway. Edited October 11, 2020 by SuperSmexy500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikutai Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said: Why indeed... Haha I would downvote you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzota Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sikutai said: Haha I would downvote you. And this is the reason why it's good to not have the option. People would downvote other people just because they don't like each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikutai Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Juzota said: And this is the reason why it's good to not have the option. People would downvote other people just because they don't like each other. But I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMagnetz Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, PerryToxteth said: I’d argue the opposite. Over the years, I’ve found the majority of PSNPers to be entertaining, informative, funny, helpful, and good- natured. Criticism posts are usually backed with a version of reasoning. Like all other forums, there are degrees of vitriol and snark, and certain people tend to only post that. But the 100% flame-inducing trolls are almost always called out for it and they usually don’t last long around here. Toxicity seems to be the catch-word of the year 2020 but I don’t find this site to be toxic. I suppose it depends on different individual's experiences. No two people's experience on this site will be exactly the same. I have encountered quite a bit of toxicity on this site but I'm glad you haven't. Like I said, there have been a lot of nice people too. Entirely possible though that it's simply a case of negative experiences sticking in one's mind more, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aranea Highwind Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Not a fan of the downvote option and it's one of the major reasons why i dislike Reddit the times i use it. I remember a couple of years ago we had on this website some type of stars rating on everyone forum profile. People would troll other users by giving them 1/5 stars when they disagreed or simply for trolling purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryToxteth Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, ImMagnetz said: I suppose it depends on different individual's experiences. No two people's experience on this site will be exactly the same. I have encountered quite a bit of toxicity on this site but I'm glad you haven't. Like I said, there have been a lot of nice people too. Entirely possible though that it's simply a case of negative experiences sticking in one's mind more, of course. As long as you stay off of the leaderboard threads, you should experience no toxicity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czDante92 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, PerryToxteth said: I’d argue the opposite. Over the years, I’ve found the majority of PSNPers to be entertaining, informative, funny, helpful, and good- natured. Criticism posts are usually backed with a version of reasoning. Like all other forums, there are degrees of vitriol and snark, and certain people tend to only post that. But the 100% flame-inducing trolls are almost always called out for it and they usually don’t last long around here. Toxicity seems to be the catch-word of the year 2020 but I don’t find this site to be toxic. Just the other day I was saying to my friend that trophy hunting community is one of the nicest communities there is and it's especially noteworthy since it's almost 100% online and videogame related, therefore highest chance of toxicity ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegeth Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 In the past five or whatever years, I think I've only seen one post that I would've down voted. If I see a part I don't like, which is pretty rare here, I just ignore and move on. Like people have said, seeing that line releases that sweet, sweet serotonin and makes you want to engage more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMagnetz Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, PerryToxteth said: As long as you stay off of the leaderboard threads, you should experience no toxicity here. The difference between how things should be and how they sometimes are can be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alantor32 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 A thumbs down option can be a double edge sword. It may or may not force users to leave this site if they feel discouraged by too many thumbs down, so I don't know if it is a good idea to implent such an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Ilzaki said: Like people have said, seeing that line releases that sweet, sweet serotonin and makes you want to engage more. I gave you a like for your daily seratonin shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Because of the posts and style that I use, I would bet some people would be downvoting my comments just because I offended them in the past. Yes, that will happen. A downvote option will basically divide this community more than it already has. A number of people don't like me, and I can fully admit that here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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