Vintage__Davis Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 How about instead of speculating how it works, someone actually tries it and sees how it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SnowNinjaRaccoon Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, enaysoft said: It is not worded well, but Sony puts "These recordings", how else would Sony be able to validate that a recording if it wasn't directly from their servers? Also how would one go about recording a group chat anyway through the PS4? You'd have voices (yourself) missing, also how could Sony verify it is real. Someone could just send them any MP3. Why would Sony need to ask your permission and say "you will be recorded" if it wasn't on their hardware. It is worded well... it says "may be recorded and send in BY OTHER USERS". Probably an option in the party which lets you send the audio file directly? Just like reporting a message... One guy starts panic and all the others follow like sheeps fearing the Sony Gestapo... lmao 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucare Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 With ps app all friends have lvl 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegeth Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I've wanted a Kat avatar forever. I switched it on my PS3 because I didn't want to bother with updating the PS4 yet. Looking at this thread, that seemed to be a good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTorito Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 This is just an informative message of what was already being a thing. People can record your voice if you don’t have the option unchecked, unless that changed too with this. Anyway, is all about snitching, or someone harassing, threatening you or others. There is freedom of expression for everything else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It could easily be made clearer. Such as "may be recorded and sent to us" -> "may be recorded and sent to us using the Playstation 4 'Report Abuse" button" There is a simple reason why disclaimers like this are usually vague, it is so it can include a wide range of conditions, that somebody might think of later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonares Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) I was so hyped when I heard Bloodborne avatars are coming (at last) but now that I saw them.. Low-res with a dreadful red circle around them, ugh. Edited July 21, 2021 by Amonares 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NathanielJohn Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 If you're outraged by this, you should have already been outraged and not using a PS4 in the first place. Let me quote something from the PSN Terms of Service that has been there since 2013. Quote However, we reserve the right in our sole discretion to monitor and record any or all of your PSN activity and to remove any of your UGM at our sole discretion, without further notice to you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) We are now living George Orwell's hell world of 1984, a place where you can't even trust your own friends and family not to snitch on you. For the record, I have read Animal Farm and seen the film versions of 1984 so I know what he was warning us about. Edited October 14, 2020 by HuntingFever Update. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilpain97 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 People do realize they always listened? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, SnowxSakura said: That's fucked up Surely that would have always been the case, otherwise voice chat would have been completely unmoderated until now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, lilpain97 said: People do realize they always listened? Whilst that's true, it doesn't make this latest change any less scummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantCrow Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, lilpain97 said: People do realize they always listened? Of course they don't, most people aren't working in tech. Ignorance is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HuntingFever Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ghost said: No way to stop it or deny the request. It says the following: "Voice chats may be recorded for moderation. By joining, you agree to be recorded." After doing some digging around, it turns out you can turn this crap off by going to the "Allow your voice to be shared" option in the Party Settings menu and unticking it . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VigilantCrow Posted October 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, HuntingFever said: We are now living George Orwell's hell world of 1984, a place where you can't even trust your own friends and family not to snitch on you. I'd recommend actually reading Orwell instead of just spouting his name. You're choosing to be recorded by using the service, it isn't forced on you. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I don't like the sound of this. But as long as i can check the button other people can't record my voice its all good. I had some disturbing messages about how much someone liked my voice on more than one occasion, if my wife found out she would have to sleep on the couch :(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzgiglatte Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 If you are saying things that are ban or moderation worthy to your own friends and they think so, that's kind of a you problem and not a sony problem lmao. What could you possibly be saying to your own friends that got you so scared? They aren't constantly listening. Your friends can, and have always been able to, record and send those recordings that include you, unless your setting was different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, HuntingFever said: After doing some digging around, it turns out you can turn this crap off by going to the "Allow your voice to be shared" option in the Party Settings menu and unticking it . Yeah, I remember that. Nothing was loading on the XMB and I seen the comments on the blog and people were going crazy about it. Thought they changed their policy. My fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost said: Yeah, I remember that. Nothing was loading on the XMB and I seen the comments on the blog and people were going crazy about it. Thought they changed their policy. My fault. No problem, you were telling us about something that needed mentioning . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Fizzgiglatte said: If you are saying things that are ban or moderation worthy to your own friends and they think so, that's kind of a you problem and not a sony problem lmao. What could you possibly be saying to your own friends that got you so scared? They aren't constantly listening. Your friends can, and have always been able to, record and send those recordings that include you, unless your setting was different. Well firstly anything can be deemed offensive by anyone. Yes ,I do play with my friends, but i run the largest guild on the Tera EU server and run multiple raids this is chats with 16 people. Now I obviously will tell people to stop if they are being rude or saying stuff. However with something like this in place even if the person was told off and in worst case scecnario for them kicked out of the group/raid, it seems a bit unfair for them to get banned and potentially lose an account worth a few thousand. If we are talking about individual parties one on one or small groups then yes i can definitely see why this would be helpful in those situations, but frankly i don't see how any conversation can be elevated to a point that you invite a friend or individual into a chat and then think we are friends but totally getting your account banned. That seems messed up. Essentially i can't see a context where this makes sense. Most offensive stuff happens in an in game chat, where i hear some really messed up stuff and yet we can't even get those guys banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'm still going to keep my avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shxrpay Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 You've always been able to do this with the simple record function and have party audio on in the background, then upload it to youtube or something; they're just now outright telling us about it, and it's actually BETTER now because there's an option to disable being recorded if you don't want to be. (and I'm pretty sure they listened in on the parties before too.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilpain97 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Can confirm its the update thats broken things. My friends invited me fine to a party I joined but got a message saying different software blah blah. So parties and friends work on update before. Wether this is an actual update bug or just servers no updating with new updateI dunno. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, shxrpay said: You've always been able to do this with the simple record function and have party audio on in the background, then upload it to youtube or something; they're just now outright telling us about it, and it's actually BETTER now because there's an option to disable being recorded if you don't want to be. (and I'm pretty sure they listened in on the parties before too.) The wording suggests sony could record and store everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinthoras_96 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, HuntingFever said: After doing some digging around, it turns out you can turn this crap off by going to the "Allow your voice to be shared" option in the Party Settings menu and unticking it . That option was already there before but it's meant to avoid your voice being shared when someone in the party streams or records gameplay and has party chat enabled for this. But this new disclaimer sounds like Sony can now somehow store party chats and people in those chats can report them. This is something completely different from my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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