Popular Post Boni_Neto Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 I find it curious that when the glitch is an exploit, the devs run like crazy to fix it, but when it's something that prevents the player from getting a trophy, they take their time before deciding if it's worth or not. 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiCBZ Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, imminent-file5 said: If it's a shovelware plat then wouldn't that mean the whole game is just shovelware. Hmm no, in my opinion. As it's been said, Stranded Deep is indeed a legitimately game, and getting the Platinum the intended way is one thing: using this bug to pop it in few seconds without playing the game at all is another. Getting this platinum in few seconds with this bug is totally worthless: when looking at people's profiles and spotting it, I definitely look down upon it just like any jumping shit. Edit: Didn't read your post properly and misunderstood Edited July 16, 2023 by KenjiCBZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship_Pooper Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I came to the forum to see why this game is the second most highly played title this week and found the answer. It took me 52 hours to platinum, it can now be done in 3 seconds ?. I did enjoy the game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuthg21 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 12 hours ago, blazkowicz6 said: I am surprised they didn't act faster. ? The devs took months to fix a trophy, i didn't expect anything else from them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-DFG Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I am honestly suprised it has not been reported sooner - because i've seen a few people gatekeeping this platinum, as if you try to do the exploit they would see it as deemed inlegit (wouldn't suprise me if the bug was reported by one of those people because it took the developers a week to find out about it). I had it in my UR cabinet for about 2 days or so before people caught on, on the bug and then it dropped fairly quickly to a VR. But i do feel bad for the people that have done it legit, and now it having as an autopop option ruining it's UR score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceOfPeace Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Good, it will now give some people something worthy of being displayed in their trophy cabinet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiCBZ Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, PrinceOfPeace said: Good, it will now give some people something worthy of being displayed in their trophy cabinet. Not gonna lie, I have seen people having Fall Guys' Infallible Trophy in their cabinet, then I look at the date they achieved it, and it's May 14 2021. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Boni_Neto said: I find it curious that when the glitch is an exploit, the devs run like crazy to fix it, but when it's something that prevents the player from getting a trophy, they take their time before deciding if it's worth or not. Yup well, no sales are lost on a glitched trophy. But many people downloaded a game for free JUST to get the platinum and instantly delete it. Well those are potential sale months or years in the future. All gone The people who got Stranded Deep the most I guess now are the devs. lol Edited July 16, 2023 by enaysoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickPCRE5 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jason-DFG said: I am honestly suprised it has not been reported sooner - because i've seen a few people gatekeeping this platinum, as if you try to do the exploit they would see it as deemed inlegit (wouldn't suprise me if the bug was reported by one of those people because it took the developers a week to find out about it). I had it in my UR cabinet for about 2 days or so before people caught on, on the bug and then it dropped fairly quickly to a VR. But i do feel bad for the people that have done it legit, and now it having as an autopop option ruining it's UR score. I had the NA stack for more than a year and it was at 1.74% rarity, I was planning to do the EU stack legitimately eventually up until this glitch was discovered, rip to both UR platinums from my collection? 2 minutes ago, enaysoft said: Yup well, no sales are lost on a glitched trophy. But many people downloaded a game for free JUST to get the platinum and instantly delete it. Well those are potential sale months or years in the future. All gone The people who got Stranded Deep the most I guess now are the devs. lol I do love a free platinum but I preferred to keep the platinum as UR better, but that's all history now 24 minutes ago, KenjiCBZ said: Not gonna lie, I have seen people having Fall Guys' Infallible Trophy in their cabinet, then I look at the date they achieved it, and it's May 14 2021. ? This is the 3rd time I had a UR platinum achieved that become VR, looks like it's back to drawing board to accumulate back that amount yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Riiszk Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) I spent a good few weeks getting all Blackout trophies in black ops 4 just for those devs to hand out the trophy to everyone upon launching the game which I was never hugely concerned about. If devs do anything to make trophies easier (whether intentional or not), it shouldn't matter how people got it. And to be 'looked down on' by taking advantage of a glitch/oversight is ridiculous. Such an elitist mindset. It's as if people are new to exploits and glitches. Of course you're allowed to feel a sense of pride for doing something the hard way because that feeling of achievement is what trophies is all about, but looking down on others for how they like to handle their profile is gatekeepy and a beta mentality. The game's the game. Edited July 16, 2023 by Riiszk 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKratos Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 My ONLY regret is that I ONLY got the NA & EU platinum's. I also wanted the JP stack. Damn it! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavietka Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, KenjiCBZ said: Not gonna lie, I have seen people having Fall Guys' Infallible Trophy in their cabinet, then I look at the date they achieved it, and it's May 14 2021. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkrobot_pb Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Starship_Pooper said: I did enjoy the game though. And that's the most important part anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickPCRE5 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Riiszk said: I spent a good few weeks getting all Blackout trophies in black ops 4 just for those devs to hand out the trophy to everyone upon launching the game which I was never hugely concerned about. If devs do anything to make trophies easier (whether intentional or not), it shouldn't matter how people got it. And to be 'looked down on' by taking advantage of a glitch/oversight is ridiculous. Such an elitist mindset. It's as if people are new to exploits and glitches. Of course you're allowed to feel a sense of pride for doing something the hard way because that feeling of achievement is what trophies is all about, but looking down on others for how they like to handle their profile is gatekeepy and a beta mentality. The game's the game. I rmb there was a trophy in tomb raider 2013 where you need purchase all characters which took a lot grindings, somehow after getting the trophy and the platinum, the dev decided to release a patch a day later to remove one of the character which made the trophy much less grindy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 hours ago, KenjiCBZ said: Hmm no, in my opinion. As it's been said, Stranded Deep is indeed a legitimately game, and getting the Platinum the intended way is one thing: using this bug to pop it in few seconds without playing the game at all is another. Getting this platinum in few seconds with this bug is totally worthless: when looking at people's profiles and spotting it, I definitely look down upon it just like any jumping shit. Edit: Didn't read your post properly and misunderstood If there is a bug that auto pop trophies in Witcher 3, it consider a shovelware game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letenko Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, Clavietka said: Care to elaborate? There was a glitch where you could earn the trophy for winnig 5 games in a row, which for many was a platinum stopper, in private matches. As far as I recall, nothing else could pop in private matches, so you still had to do everything else legit, including winning 30(?) games. And back then, there weren't as many modes where you could win 5 games straight without too much hassle. He is implying that people glitched the trophy, yet are so proud of it they display it in their cabinet. Can't really disagree with the point. but I would have chosen different words. This is coming from someone who took advantage of that glitch BTW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadaik Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 About lost sales: Does anybody know how Extra games work in terms of money for the devs/publisher? Like, do they get paid a one-time amount by Sony in advance or is their pay based on download numbers?Because I have seen both happen in subscription models depending on who runs the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letenko Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, shadaik said: About lost sales: Does anybody know how Extra games work in terms of money for the devs/publisher? Like, do they get paid a one-time amount by Sony in advance or is their pay based on download numbers?Because I have seen both happen in subscription models depending on who runs the service. I don't think it was ever fully disclosed, but I imagine it's a one time fee. Just like when games are added to regular plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doylus91 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I would imagine it would be we pay you X amount to have it on Extra from X date to X date, some of it could be based on downloads over that period who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothGirlMaxine Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I know from my perspective that my video I made a week ago probably added to the exposure this viral platinum exploit gained, but hey, we can't help that the exploit existed, nor can we help the fact that people chose to take advantage of the exploit. 1 hour ago, TheDarkKratos said: My ONLY regret is that I ONLY got the NA & EU platinum's. I also wanted the JP stack. Damn it! ? The JP stack wasn't updated to the version that had the exploit anyway, so the exploit was never available there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiCBZ Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Riiszk said: I spent a good few weeks getting all Blackout trophies in black ops 4 just for those devs to hand out the trophy to everyone upon launching the game which I was never hugely concerned about. If devs do anything to make trophies easier (whether intentional or not), it shouldn't matter how people got it. And to be 'looked down on' by taking advantage of a glitch/oversight is ridiculous. Such an elitist mindset. It's as if people are new to exploits and glitches. Of course you're allowed to feel a sense of pride for doing something the hard way because that feeling of achievement is what trophies is all about, but looking down on others for how they like to handle their profile is gatekeepy and a beta mentality. The game's the game. Doing something in an easier way is one thing, being given the Platinum for doing literally nothing in few seconds/minutes without even playing the game at all is another. Free to call me an elitist, but I'm also free to have my opinion on it. 1 hour ago, Keyser Soze said: If there is a bug that auto pop trophies in Witcher 3, it consider a shovelware game? The game no, of course. But if I see the Platinum achieved by autopopping it due to this glitch, then yes, to my eyes it has the same credibility of any jumping shit. Edited July 16, 2023 by KenjiCBZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shadaik Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 I think this is an issue of terminology here. "Shovelware" is any game that has been made with little effort for a quick buck, usually of shoddy quality. It ha snothing to do with how easy or hard its trophies are and predates trophies and achievements by at least a decade, though trophies do provide a good incentive to buying shovelware, making its production more attractive. A shovelware game can have a 10/10 platinum (Space Invasion might count, a simple Space Invaders clone with an almost impossible 100%) or one of the most sophisticated works ever can have a 1/10 (most visual novels are anything but shovelware, yet often have plats above 90%). It's simply not related. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrBloodmoney Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, KenjiCBZ said: Doing something in an easier way is one thing, being given the Platinum for doing literally nothing in few seconds/minutes without even playing the game at all is another. That’s true, but “shovelware” has a specific meaning, and by using it incorrectly, you dampen and dilute its effectiveness as a descriptor for things that are actually shovelware. 3 hours ago, KenjiCBZ said: Free to call me an elitist, but I'm also free to have my opinion on it. Everyone is free to have opinions on everything, but those opinions can still be objectively wrong. If I say “in my opinion, 1+1=10”, I’m free to have it… …but everyone else is also free to point out that I’m wrong. 3 hours ago, KenjiCBZ said: The game no, of course. But if I see the Platinum achieved by autopopping it due to this glitch, then yes, to my eyes it has the same credibility of any jumping shit. And yet it remains objectively not “shovelware”, by any and all definitions of the term. The thing is, words have meanings, irrespective of people’s opinions. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethMcCormick Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: If I say “in my opinion, 1+1=10”, I’m free to have it… …but everyone else is also free to point out that I’m wrong And am I free to point out you’re binary right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, KennethMcCormick said: And am I free to point out you’re binary right? haha - touché! True dat, my robot friend ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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