Modern Warfare III as DLC trophies?

[MidnightDragon]

For what it's worth, XBox did the same thing.

 

https://www.trueachievements.com/n55450/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-xbox-achievements

[Akrioz]

27 minutes ago, KAIZER_SHARKY said:

 

 

And I dont get it why it got a Platinum on PS4 but not PS5...

Because if they did the same thing on PS4 it would be like 10 dlc packs. Maybe they thought that would be stupid.

10 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said:

For what it's worth, XBox did the same thing.

 

https://www.trueachievements.com/n55450/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-xbox-achievements

Activision obviously thinks that it is better or more convinient(from their perspective) to have all Call of Duty hub games in one list and it has nothing to do with PS5 trophy system. Its a deliberate decision made by Activision. If it was solely because PS5 can't handle multiple platinums in one laucher(we don't even know if this is true or not, sample size too small) why Xbox and Steam would follow the same pattern?

[ZombiJoel_Tlou3]

MW3 is just dlc ? Always has been lol

[chilly_schrimp]

I feel like this a more honest way to represent how I feel about the reboot MW campaigns. It could have been just "MW warzone" with three campaign DLCs.

[Walt the Dog]

1 hour ago, Akrioz said:

Because if they did the same thing on PS4 it would be like 10 dlc packs. Maybe they thought that would be stupid.

Activision obviously thinks that it is better or more convinient(from their perspective) to have all Call of Duty hub games in one list and it has nothing to do with PS5 trophy system. Its a deliberate decision made by Activision. If it was solely because PS5 can't handle multiple platinums in one laucher(we don't even know if this is true or not, sample size too small) why Xbox and Steam would follow the same pattern?

Neither Steam nor Xbox let an application have multiple achievement lists either. Steam historically has had no achievement limit for a while before adopting a 5000 achievement limit in response to achievement apps popping up during the start of the Steam Shovelware Rush, meaning there's effectively no reason to have multiple lists to a single game in the first place. As for Xbox, while they do have some limitations (most obviously the 1000G requirement for games), their response to game collections ever since the Xbox One released is to just have every game share a giant list with an extra 1000G allotted per game (for an obvious example, Halo MCC's gargantuan 7000G list). The only odd one out on Xbox at first glance is Rare Replay since while the main list for that is a cool 4000G, the Xbox 360 games specifically get their lists from their 360 counterparts and thus those have separate lists from the rest of the collection. However, this is allowed because the Xbox 360 games in Rare Replay are technically different apps, complete with separate launchers in the app list. As such, they do not actually break the "one list to an application" standard.

 

In this sense, PS3/Vita/PS4 were the true oddballs for allowing a single game to have multiple lists and the PS5 forcing the "one list per application" standard is just bringing it in line with the other two major achievement ecosystems.

[trophynerd122]

Is there any information from the developers? Like confirmation that this is no mistake or anything?

[HusKy]

20 minutes ago, Jasko_SOA said:

Is there any information from the developers? Like confirmation that this is no mistake or anything?

 

Definitely not an error. XBOX received the same treatment.

[HusKy]

3 hours ago, Akrioz said:

why Xbox and Steam would follow the same pattern

 

Consistency? Easier for the dev team? For the publishers? Wouldn't be surprising.

[offdutysuperhero]

I think its just a coincidence that ps, xbox, and steam both have a similar setup for trophies/achievements regarding one application. For sure an oversight and not a number one priority thats for sure.

[DarkSuperT]

I think it's going to change as some major games are going the hub way. (CoD and AC being the firsts)

 

It would be really weird to get rid of standard list AND platinum for big games like that.

[OmegaRejectz]

9 hours ago, poker_1987 said:

Genuinely who cares? It's just a trophy list. Get a grip

I think most are ignoring the trophy side of things and are just talking about how the game is a dumpster fire

[Akrioz]

1 hour ago, HusKy said:

Consistency? Easier for the dev team? For the publishers? Wouldn't be surprising.

Yeah, that what I meant. There is no reason to cater for one platform if they can force one standart across all major ecosystems. They probably saw that you can now add big DLC lists on PS5 and decided to do the same everywhere

[VeldinX]

2 hours ago, Walt the Dog said:

In this sense, PS3/Vita/PS4 were the true oddballs for allowing a single game to have multiple lists and the PS5 forcing the "one list per application" standard is just bringing it in line with the other two major achievement ecosystems.

Can’t fault your post because it’s both factual and balanced. I will fault Sony, however. Usually when something is brought into line with a certain standard, it’s because it wasn’t meeting that said standard and it’s now being raised to a higher standard.
 

I wouldn’t say that is the case is here because I think PS was the higher standard. It was the more organised and clean way, and now we have thrown that away just to be in line with a lower standard? Makes no sense, especially for PS since we have the Platinum trophy which doesn’t really work with the shared list format. 
 

The other problem is there are often times when people only want to play one game in a collection. Now they are forced into having them all on their profile. Since most of the time these collections are of full games in their own right, it’s perfectly normal and legit to only want one (GTA Trilogy being a prime example where demand for SA heavily outweighs the other two). 

[Johnytomm]

I genuinely cannot believe they made a decision this stupid. I feel bad for MW2 players who's 100% has been completely ruined with what looks to be AT LEAST a 30-40 hour game without a reward at the end. The game looks pretty garbage though, so this should seal the deal for people who were on the fence like me

[iMagrick]

What if from now on all CODs are DLC from COD HQ ? 

[Nierou]

52 minutes ago, Johnytomm said:

I genuinely cannot believe they made a decision this stupid. I feel bad for MW2 players who's 100% has been completely ruined with what looks to be AT LEAST a 30-40 hour game without a reward at the end. The game looks pretty garbage though, so this should seal the deal for people who were on the fence like me

It's a shame too, i almost bought it because I remember enjoying zombies with my friends but that was before i really even looked into it but now I definitely won't even be considering it. Not to mention losing the ability to gameshare, which wouldn't be as bad if it was an an actual game and not a $70 advertisement for warzone.

[PunisherXD]

This entire situation is hilarious, just gonna put it straight. I watched my recently hit 80.08% completion drop to 79.5% for a game I haven't even played. 🤣

 

However, they're not gonna "fix" this, because it's the same on the other platforms, and it seems intentional.

So for the trophy hunters complaining, you got two options. Either fall for their scammy games and pricetags because of your severe OCD, or just accept that you're gonna have an incomplete game forever. I'm on the latter, just another one to the pile lol.

[poker_1987]

Trophy hunting is a niche thing anyway. Most people just play games normally

[stitchesnscars]

Gets ridiculed for charging 70 bucks for what games call a DLC, doubles down and releases an entire "new game list" as DLC. Activision has out activisioned themselves this time. 

 

I cant tell if this is brainless, tone deaf, or elite levels of audacity. 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by stitchesnscars

[here4headshots]

I got a trophy last night playing the early access campaign for the PS5 version. Would it be too late for Activision to go back and redo the list? It's really weird that the PS4 has a separate list and a platinum. That sounds like a mistake.

[here4headshots]

16 hours ago, poker_1987 said:

Genuinely who cares? It's just a trophy list. Get a grip

*Logs on to website dedicated to collecting trophies*

*Sees thread where dedicated community is upset about an obviously negative issue to those who care*

*Types comment to dedicated community that they are too dedicated*

*Smiles and thinks he added value to the conversation*

 

Come on, dude. I don't even care THAT much, but his is the most irritating type of comment. 

[poker_1987]

1 hour ago, here4headshots said:

*Logs on to website dedicated to collecting trophies*

*Sees thread where dedicated community is upset about an obviously negative issue to those who care*

*Types comment to dedicated community that they are too dedicated*

*Smiles and thinks he added value to the conversation*

 

Come on, dude. I don't even care THAT much, but his is the most irritating type of comment. 

 

 

I don't really get what the problem is

 

Cod hq is great. I can swap between warzone mw2 and now 3 in one easy app.

 

The game still has trophies, dlc has never had a platinum.

 

If you that bothered play the ps4 version which works on ps5. You already own both versions.

Edited November 3, 2023 by poker_1987

[stitchesnscars]

24 minutes ago, poker_1987 said:

 

 

I don't really get what the problem is

 

Cod hq is great. I can swap between warzone mw2 and now 3 in one easy app.

 

The game still has trophies, dlc has never had a platinum.

 

If you that bothered play the ps4 version which works on ps5. You already own both versions.

For me its another black eye. Releasing this sequel too soon (the time between 1-2 was 3 years), having to defend against the appearance of an overpriced DLC, and now releasing the list this way on the current gen as an adder, does not inspire confidence that this entry will be worth it. Optically this has everything going against it.

Edited November 3, 2023 by stitchesnscars

[Black_Zombie1313]

I also believe the Xbox series s/x also says it’s DLC under the achievements. 

[dieselmanchild]

This is so lame. It’s unusual enough for a big AAA game like CoD to ship without a platinum trophy, but to add its trophies as DLC to a previous title is just wild.
 

I guess the question for trophy hunters is, will this be something we see again in the future if other franchises go the same route with a united launcher for their games? Even if they do, I don’t see any justifiable reason why they can’t separate the trophy lists. There’s already been games like ME Legendary Edition that had multiple trophy lists attached to one launcher so we know they can do it.