CookiestMonsterr Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, EPICRAGE said: Yea, disc version of game, not digital. turn console offline turn automatic updates off remove and insert disc restart Ps5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaLuna Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 So I updated to the right version yesterday, powered down my PS5, and unplugged the ethernet. I started it up today - while still unplugged, but it won't let me load the game. How does it know to update without internet access? It's the only game that I cannot load up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordzeze Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, MilanYildirim said: How can an offline game forces you to download the patch? That is super weird. I guess that ship has sailed 28 minutes ago, PortaLuna said: So I updated to the right version yesterday, powered down my PS5, and unplugged the ethernet. I started it up today - while still unplugged, but it won't let me load the game. How does it know to update without internet access? It's the only game that I cannot load up. Seems to be a new thing with some games. Spider-Man 2 would not let me start even offline without installing the patch and WWE 2K24 I started downloading the new patch but cancelled it and it would not let me start the game even with the internet disconnected without downloading the patch first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedotcom Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 In theory, couldn't someone use the patch-downgrade method to get to specific patch containing the debug menu? I have never been in a situation where I needed to do the patch downgrade, so I'm not 100% sure how it works. I just remember it being a big deal when they screwed up the FF15 multiplayer nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNumbers Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 8 minutes ago, iamthedotcom said: In theory, couldn't someone use the patch-downgrade method to get to specific patch containing the debug menu? I have never been in a situation where I needed to do the patch downgrade, so I'm not 100% sure how it works. I just remember it being a big deal when they screwed up the FF15 multiplayer nonsense. Sounds like the answer is no, if the game--by whatever means--identifies you're not using the latest version and refuses to launch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gommes_ Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 So, is there any chance to use that glitch when owning the disc version? I guess not, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNumbers Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 minutes ago, Gommes_ said: So, is there any chance to use that glitch when owning the disc version? I guess not, right? No chance for a PS5 game in particular as you need a specific version that's not what's on the disc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattiechuu Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Funny how THIS is the thing they patch immediately. When the game launched as a buggy mess and it took months for them to do anything about it. Oh insomniac... what happened? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Mattiechuu said: Funny how THIS is the thing they patch immediately. When the game launched as a buggy mess and it took months for them to do anything about it. Oh insomniac... what happened? What is probably the equivalent of commenting out a couple lines of code checking for a particular set of inputs should be much faster than fixing bugs that they couldn't figure out before launch. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNumbers Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Well it's a good point given how many devs point to the arduous process of testing and uploading patches to Sony as rationale for not fixing (often relatively simple) issues. Comparing them to Insomniac may be apples and oranges, but I agree this stands out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikapadupu Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 3 hours ago, DivineNocturne said: That's the most backwards logic thing I've ever heard, you play a game that's a once and done no new game + mechanics to spice it up so youre slogging through a game you've already finished for a single trophy is not enjoyable to most. I said a trophy is a bonus. If I enjoyed a game why not repeat it another day Edited March 8 by Rikapadupu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 52 minutes ago, iamthedotcom said: In theory, couldn't someone use the patch-downgrade method to get to specific patch containing the debug menu? I have never been in a situation where I needed to do the patch downgrade, so I'm not 100% sure how it works. I just remember it being a big deal when they screwed up the FF15 multiplayer nonsense. Good luck doing that with a PS5 game. 🤷♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMango Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 If the console is in rest mode, it's not all the way turned off and still connected to the internet. Sony may have sent a command to the console to not launch the game if it is on that specific version, even with the console in rest mode. I never usually put my console in rest mode, and I turned it on just now while disconnected from the internet and was able to launch into the game on patch 1.002 just fine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaLuna Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 31 minutes ago, BlindMango said: If the console is in rest mode, it's not all the way turned off and still connected to the internet. Sony may have sent a command to the console to not launch the game if it is on that specific version, even with the console in rest mode. I never usually put my console in rest mode, and I turned it on just now while disconnected from the internet and was able to launch into the game on patch 1.002 just fine That wasn't my experience unfortunately, but my friend confirmed what you posted. He's in the same boat, however he hasn't even started playing the game so he's not sure if he'll have leaderboard issues here and other websites if he pops NG plus trophy before ever starting the game. Does anyone know the rules about stuff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandedBerserk Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mattiechuu said: Funny how THIS is the thing they patch immediately. When the game launched as a buggy mess and it took months for them to do anything about it. Oh insomniac... what happened? Spiderman 2 lunched as a buggy mess? What game were you playing lol. Edited March 8 by BrandedBerserk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlindMango Posted March 8 Popular Post Share Posted March 8 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PortaLuna said: That wasn't my experience unfortunately, but my friend confirmed what you posted. He's in the same boat, however he hasn't even started playing the game so he's not sure if he'll have leaderboard issues here and other websites if he pops NG plus trophy before ever starting the game. Does anyone know the rules about stuff like that? Dev/Debug menus are allowed so long as they are found within the game itself, which it is on this version of the game. Some other games like the Jak & Daxter games have had debug menus as well which the cheater removal team takes into account for everyone that plays it, so I'm sure they'll also be aware of this one. And out of order time-stamps should be explainable with this for March 6 and later, but could still be flaggable if trophies are earned out of order prior to March 6th I can't really speak for other websites, but generally they seem to go by similar rules to ours Edited March 8 by BlindMango 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNumbers Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PortaLuna said: That wasn't my experience unfortunately, but my friend confirmed what you posted. He's in the same boat, however he hasn't even started playing the game so he's not sure if he'll have leaderboard issues here and other websites if he pops NG plus trophy before ever starting the game. Does anyone know the rules about stuff like that? How would you pop NG+ "before ever starting the game"? I believe you need a complete playthrough (either legit or also using the dev console) before you can even start a NG+. EDIT: I'm guessing you mean getting NG+ essentially right after starting and then completing the game via dev console, in which case Blind Mango's answer above covers it pretty well. Edited March 8 by RNumbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 hours ago, archangeltw_ said: Patch 1.002.001 is out now Well, that didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookiestMonsterr Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said: Well, that didn't take long. 19 hours, 30 minutes, and 1 second. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 8 minutes ago, CookiestMonsterr said: 19 hours, 30 minutes, and 1 second. That was very specific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 43 minutes ago, BlindMango said: but could still be flaggable if trophies are earned out of order prior to March 6th Thought PS5 games weren't flaggable yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javillanueva84 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, ArmoredSnowman said: Thought PS5 games weren't flaggable yet? Sly hasn’t implemented the report feature for PS5 games yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMango Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, ArmoredSnowman said: Thought PS5 games weren't flaggable yet? That's also true, mainly I'm referring to whenever PS5 games eventually become flaggable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnichoj Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, Mattiechuu said: Funny how THIS is the thing they patch immediately. When the game launched as a buggy mess and it took months for them to do anything about it. Oh insomniac... what happened? Sony forcing them to rush it out for the 2023 holiday happened? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, mcnichoj said: Sony forcing them to rush it out for the 2023 holiday happened? *LittleBigPlanet 3 launch flashbacks* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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