Popular Post AJ_-_808 Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said: Still, seems odd to consider a requirement for a game on a gaming site to be a game is elitist - but I'll take it! ? What more is a granitebeast than a troll caught in the sunlight? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrBloodmoney Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, AJ_-_808 said: What more is a granitebeast than a troll caught in the sunlight? now now, let's remain civil, there are no trolls, just misinformed peop... *ahem* sorry. Couldn't quite get through that sentence for some reason. But seriously - you've been on this site a while... I do have to ask, if someone has an argument so facile that they end up in a protracted argument and I'm the one on the "elitist" side... ...just how far from the tree have they fallen ? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepEyes7 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: now now, let's remain civil, there are no trolls, just misinformed peop... *ahem* sorry. Couldn't quite get through that sentence for some reason. But seriously - you've been on this site a while... I do have to ask, if someone has an argument so facile that they end up in a protracted argument and I'm the one on the "elitist" side... ...just how far from the tree have they fallen If you dont agree with someone else point of view, you are an elitist, welcome to the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: I do have to ask, if someone has an argument so facile that they end up in a protracted argument and I'm the one on the "elitist" side... ...just how far from the tree have they fallen At the risk of an off topic warning, the world has changed in the past 20 years. People aren't capable of climbing said tree anymore, or even putting in the effort to try. Everyone gets an award because "how dare you, elitist snob". You can't win these arguments, because even if you use their own reasoning against them to prove them wrong, it still comes down to "how dare you, elitist snob" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomataEighty9 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 The only thing being spammed more than ezpz plats on this site, are these threads. We get it, people think these "games" are crap. We get it, people playing these "games", "love playing them", and are not gonna stop. Can we please talk about something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, TomataEighty9 said: The only thing being spammed more than ezpz plats on this site, are these threads. We get it, people think these "games" are crap. We get it, people playing these "games", "love playing them", and are not gonna stop. These threads eventually lead to a new feature being added on the website. 7 minutes ago, TomataEighty9 said: Can we please talk about something else? Let people talk about whatever they want to talk about? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomataEighty9 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, HusKy said: These threads eventually lead to a new feature being added on the website. But it has been said 2000 times, that the owner of the site, is NOT gonna make changes. So i don't see why people keep spamming? Just now, HusKy said: Let people talk about whatever they want to talk about? Sure Do what you want. No one is stopping you. I just find it funny, that the people complaining about these "games" filling up this site, and it being spammed, are spamming the forums themselves, with these threads But yeah, sure, you do what you want, im not gonna stop you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, TomataEighty9 said: But it has been said 2000 times, that the owner of the site, is NOT gonna make changes. So i don't see why people keep spamming? New feature was added yesterday. Maybe read the thread you are replying to first. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenScars Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, TomataEighty9 said: But it has been said 2000 times, that the owner of the site, is NOT gonna make changes. So i don't see why people keep spamming? Except he made a change yesterday to stop Shittleware appear on the New Lists and made a seperate tab for them in Games? Got ninja'd by Husky... Whoops. Edited October 21, 2022 by OpenScars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomataEighty9 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, HusKy said: New feature was added yesterday. Maybe read the thread you are replying to first. Apparently it DOES help to spam about being tired of spamming Congrats to you EDIT. It seems that the information about Sly fixing this, was indeed NOT, in the first post, and my answer was a reply to the thread. So actually, im not to blame, for not plowing through the ENTIRE thread, before posting an answer about the topic. Edited October 21, 2022 by TomataEighty9 new information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, GraniteBeast603 said: Calling them "shovelware" is indicative of a cracked and warped understand of what these "games" are. They're nothing more than the game pieces used to facilitate a trophy-collecting meta contest that is entirely separate from what you would call "gaming". Comparing them to other "games", or commenting on the amount of effort it takes to make these games just shows that you don't understand what's happening at all. It's all coming from people who seem to be upset that they have to share space on the venn-diagram with this alternate metagame. It's like you're looking at a box of hockey pucks and saying "That's not a sport!". The games are just the hockey pucks used for something else. If you're commenting about the amount of "effort" that goes into these things, then your understanding is so broken and wrong that you really aren't qualified to comment on this at all. Moving on.... Entitlement and elitism are apparent in about 2/3 of the posts in this thread and others like it. It's about to get a lot worse now that Sly poured gas on this fire. I noticed it took about 2.3 seconds after the latest change was implemented for people to start screaming "THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH! I WANT MOAR!!!!" Half the people here were content to say "Nothing will ever be implemented, just learn to coexist". Now those people got a taste of blood in the water. they've seen that the site can be changed if they complain enough. The next six months of forum threads should be wildly entertaining. What shovelware did you shove onto the PSN store? I can't remember, figured it out before though. And these are trolls, trying to create a sour tone for no action to take place, because they benefit from it financially. There's multiple people in this thread who work on these spam apps. Edited October 21, 2022 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEI2EK Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 The hide/show option doesn’t appear to work when you are browsing game lists by letter, it still shows stuff marked as shovelware even with the option turned on. @BlindMango @Sly Ripper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MMDE Posted October 21, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 hours ago, ViensDanser said: all of these games in this section may not earn any points for the leaderbord ? that would be a good thing In case people don't know, this is world #2 asking for the garbage they feel they have to keep paying for and endure to end. ? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post amurnin100 Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, MMDE said: In case people don't know, this is world #2 asking for the garbage they feel they have to keep paying for and endure to end. ? Only by choice, we don’t force him to purchase it, in actual fact those who continue to buy them encourage the developers behaviour. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colia100 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 6:41 AM, aZombieDictator said: Just wait until the "developers" start collaborating and making stuff like "pet the jumping hotdog nitro Halloween breakthrough edition p quiz drift" That could actually bump these games out of the shovelware category... I mean, have you ever tried to pet a jumping hotdog in a drift? Not so easy my friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViensDanser Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, MMDE said: In case people don't know, this is world #2 asking for the garbage they feel they have to keep paying for and endure to end. I don t understand , what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedelebiary Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, ViensDanser said: I don t understand , what do you mean? That's you're participating in these threads while you're basically one of the reasons why we are all here today. ? Team accounts on the top places who keep buying such trash and encouraging the lazy developers to make more. Damn addiction, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, ahmedelebiary said: That's you're participating in these threads while you're basically one of the reasons why we are all here today. ? Team accounts on the top places who keep buying such trash and encouraging the lazy developers to make more. Damn addiction, amirite? I'm not putting any blame on him for it. I'm just pointing out even the people who buy them and benefit from it wants this to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amurnin100 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, MMDE said: I'm not putting any blame on him for it. I'm just pointing out even the people who buy them and benefit from it wants this to stop. Buy to Benefit …., sounds dangerous…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ViensDanser Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, DeadDexterous said: He means even though you are so high up on the leaderboard. Even you are not happy with what you have to do to stay there now. oh ok , yes it is the true? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said: I do have to ask, if someone has an argument so facile that they end up in a protracted argument and I'm the one on the "elitist" side... ...just how far from the tree have they fallen Pipe down, elitist scum. But anyway, since this thread has truly jumped the shark (thank you Mr. Beast), I truly hope that MMDE’s claim is true. It makes some of Mr. Beast’s comments in earlier threads (such as his tortured comparisons between shovelware and Assassin’s Creed 2) so much more…logical. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryToxteth Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: (such as his tortured comparisons between shovelware and Assassin’s Creed 2) I had quite a chuckle over that preposterous comparison of just hitting . and object, your honor! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman_1954 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 In my opinion and I stress the word "MY" opinion, the trophy system has become corrupt and worthless. I would like to see the system cleaned up and credibility put back into it. How do you go about doing that? Any action taken to correct the problem can easily become a dangerous, detrimental and unfair action. The action taken can become a part of the problem. So be warned! First, there are a lot of factors that need to be pointed out and considered here before any action is taken. 1. Gaming Community - There are factions within the gaming community such as Hard-Core gamers, Speed Runners, Completist, Trophy Hunters, etc. Each has their own values or preferences when picking out and playing games. These values very greatly from group to group. 2. Censorship - Any action taken to forcibly impose one factions values upon another is totally wrong and should not be allowed. 3. Cheaters - People who partake in such behavior should be banned from the gaming community. These are people with no moral values whatsoever. I'm glad this policy is in effect. 4. Individual Talents - Each person has their own individual talents, they very from person to person. What is easy for one person may be hard for another and vice versa. 5. The Handicapped - There are people with mental or physical limitations. Any actions taken to discriminate against such disabilities should not be allowed. 6. The Elderly - As you get older, mental and physical skills start to fade. Doctors are finding that gaming is good therapy for older people. It helps to keep the mind sharper and the hands more agile and mobile. More and more they are encouraging older people to get into gaming because of the therapeutical values of doing so. Any action to counter such thinking and practice is a form of age discrimination and should not be allowed. 7. Reality Check - Sony and some developers lack certain moral values. They are into it for the money. To turn a fast buck. They evidently don't care about the gamer or the credibility or quality of the product. They will sell you anything that will turn a profit. The question is: are you stupid enough to buy it? 8. Glass Houses - People who live in a glass house shouldn't throw stones. We need to take a good hard long look at ourselves in a mirror. We need to clean up our own act first. Some of us gamers will actually research a game before buying it. We have identified certain developers who are notorious for putting out these "sh_t games". I personally will no longer buy games put out by these developers. If they can't make any money, they'll quit putting the trash out. Unfortunately, Sony seldom if ever provides developer name information in the store now. They don't provide a trailer to show you what you're getting. PSNProfiles use to provide developer name information on the game home page, but not anymore. Why? How can I avoid these people and their products if you don't give me the information I need? 9. Trophy Rarity Ranking - This is usually associated with the hard-core gaming faction which usually play games that are purposely designed by the developer to be unbeatable. This group of people will endure the aggravation and frustration to achieve what most people will not tolerate. They take pride in that fact and justly so. Yes, they should have their own leader board. There are also games so horribly designed that most people will not finish once they started it. Let's not forget trophies that require online participation (usually DLCs) on servers that are no longer active and are therefore unobtainable by anyone. What about Completist, Trophy Hunters, Speed Runners ect.? Shouldn't they have their own leader board as well? 10. Multi Platforms - Lets look at the big picture. I have not yet seen a set of leader boards that represent the gaming community as a whole on a worldwide basis. They are all narrow vision entities that focus on a narrow spectrum of the gaming environment. I would love to see and be on a set of leader boards that encompasses all gaming platforms (PlayStation, Xbox, PC, ect.). That would be something to see! It won't happen. The major gaming corporations don't want to deal with that kind of competition and wouldn't allow it. 11. Gaming Congress? - What about establishing an elected group of non-corporate non-professional gamers who's reponsibility is to decide what is fair and just for the gaming community as a whole? This would make game corporations and developers answerable for what they are allowed and not allowed to shove at gamers. Wouldn't this be a more sensible and viable approach to the problem? It won't happen either. Corporations and developers don't want to be held responsible or answerable for their unethical business practices. What I have mentioned are just a few of the things that should be considered before any action is taken. We all, including myself, have been victims to companies who prey on our physiological fears and weaknesses. The only solution available to me right now is to alter my spending habits and not allow myself to be a victim anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweeping-lamp3 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I believe you can see a multi platform leaderboard on Exophase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirae Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 7:34 AM, janzor88 said: Doesn't matter how good or bad suggestions people come up with, as no improvements are going to be made on this site anyway. We've been trying to improve things for years with no avail. Hopefully the inferior trophy tracking sites will keep improving, and one day take the lead from PSNP. That's our only hope at this point. I consider Truetrophies already way superior to this stagnating joke at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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