One reason that Ratalaika Games, is good

[yellowwindow7]

pretty sure I never bought or played any of their games, but the problem with ratalika's games is that they just made like one 8-bit engine or someghing and they just copy and paste their games with it with different idea and names, I swear I saw like 4 to 5 games in the Playstation Store made by them that almost looks the same.

[zizimonster]

1 hour ago, HuntingFever said:

I've played plenty of Rata titles over the last couple of years and have found the good to bad ratio to be roughly 50/50, with the good games being really good to the point I stacked them a few times and the bad ones being bottom of the barrel stinkers I couldn't get rid of fast enough.

Would you mind telling me which Ratalaika game(s) you think is good?

 

Thank you!

[LoAlexandria]

Just now, zizimonster said:

Would you mind telling me which Ratalaika game(s) you think is good?

 

Thank you!

 

Although you werent asking me, but

 

Duck Souls+ and Daggerhood are great games. 

Reminded me of Towerfall Ascension

[xIRockyRock]

30 minutes ago, LoAlexandria said:

 

Although you werent asking me, but

 

Duck Souls+ and Daggerhood are great games. 

Reminded me of Towerfall Ascension

Midnight games are also pretty enjoyable in my opinion.

[HuntingFever]

34 minutes ago, zizimonster said:

Would you mind telling me which Ratalaika game(s) you think is good?

 

Thank you!

The Language of Love

Sagebrush

Tamiku

Jisei: The First Case HD

Syrup and the Ultimate Sweet

One Night Stand

FullBlast

[cris3f]

I do find the Ratalaika (and their copycats Sometimes You, EastAsia, etc) business model deplorable. They're a company that publishes mostly junk, exploiting needs of some people to think that they're fantastic gamers by platting loads of shitty games, and even better multiple stacks of the same junk because it's that good. All people are doing is filling their pockets, not the original developers ones you're being really naive thinking otherwise. Of course Sony doesn't give a shit about this all they want is their cut too, they even changed the trophy model to precisely feed that ($$$$$$). A game could be about a turd sitting on the screen, people would click on in and trophies would pop and they would sell it anyway it they made money. And there would be a lot of people here saying it's another fantastisc Rata title anyway.

 

In the end most of the games will sell anyway if they're good and interesting. And they won't if they're just junk. That's how things should be. The only thing that interests most people here is not if the game is good and fun, but if it's easy... Wow...

 

I do laugh seing people saying that to be on the leaderboards they have to do that and that it's a competition. Well it's a competition to the shittiest place, as looking at the trophies lists of the first few thousands is absolutely deplorable. And unfortunately PSNProfiles does have their good share of the blame on this as they just reflect the deplorable conditions of this "race". Yes, a decency leaderboard should exist for the gamers that really deserve it.

 

This is a theme that will never end. There will always be 3 sides, the shit collectors, the ones that don't go for shit and the ones that don't care. Unfortunately the shit collectors are winning.

 

Honestly I don't give a damn about any leaderboard position or whatever, so I can say this without any problems. My main objective is having fun, and challenge myself when I want.

 

Last, important stuff I forgot. Don't be naive into thinking that you're really helping the original developers by buying Ratalaika shit and similar. They're the ones that get less money. Between Sony's cut, and Rata's (the biggest one for sure), they will get the smaller piece of the pie. Ratalaika are no idiots and they will certainly pick the junk where they can make more money and their share is bigger, they know beforehand that their customers don't give a shit about the games they're just buying trophy packs. And frankly unless the original developers are delusional, which happens, they will be happy to make some more money with their deplorable games anyway.

So people stop being naive and justify buying some of their games for their quality of Rata's, Sometimes You, Eastasia and all others shit, you're just filling their pockets!

You're overwhelmingly filing the junk publishers and Sony pockets. I would prefer to burn my money, but if you're happy it's your problem. Have fun...

 

 

Edited March 20, 2021 by cris3f

[zizimonster]

1 hour ago, LoAlexandria said:

 

Although you werent asking me, but

 

Duck Souls+ and Daggerhood are great games. 

Reminded me of Towerfall Ascension

 

54 minutes ago, xIRockyRock said:

Midnight games are also pretty enjoyable in my opinion.

Thank you @LoAlexandria @xIRockyRock.

 

Btw, I've just looked up Gun Crazy on Youtube, and I think I'm interested in it.

 

48 minutes ago, HuntingFever said:

The Language of Love

Sagebrush

Tamiku

Jisei: The First Case HD

Syrup and the Ultimate Sweet

One Night Stand

FullBlast

Are some of them visual novels? I don't enjoy them. But, thank you.

[BlitzkriegHottie]

Saying that they're "helping developers" because said developers wouldn't make any money otherwise (without partnering with Rata) is such a brainlet take. 

 

If anything, Rata is hurting new developers with this awful, aggressive business model.

 

These games don't get any coverage nor publicity other than in trophy sites or the occasional expo (which, btw, if you've seen clips on YouTube, you'll know it's a ghost town), their YouTube trailers average 1k views with the ocassional very rare trailer that surpasses 5k.

Their games are also completely ignored by all of the major gaming sites, I don't remember seeing one of the big guys (IGN, GameSpot, etc...) reviewing or even mentioning a Ratalaika game, except for just the usual game listings. 

 

The vast majority of people that buys their games only do it for the trophies, and if I was a new developer struggling to make a name for myself, putting effort in my work, I would take people only playing my game for the trophies as great offense. Not to mention there's no name to make there, since you're just ignored by the media and your game is buried under all that shovelware. 

 

Is this the "good publisher" some claim Rata is? 

 

Has Sony ever advertised a Rata game before? I mean, they've actually advertised trash like Life of Black Tiger, yet I don't think I've ever seen a Rata game in the spotlight. 

 

Ratalaika doesn't deserve any praise. They're awful publishers with an awful business model.

[AJ_-_808]

5 hours ago, JoesusHCrust said:

I don't think this argument works. The vast majority of people playing 'triple A' games will only complete a fraction of the game. Before I got interested in trophy hunting, I only finished maybe one game in twenty. I think this is fairly typical. 

 

I wasnt referring to people that start a game, play maybe 10% through and then put it down for one reason or another.  I was referring to the rata games where people pop the entire trophy list long before completing the game, and then walk away from it.

 

For example. if the game has 10 stages, but rata set the platinum to pop by the end of stage 1.  Someone buys it, does stage 1, then buys the next stack and repeats, never actually seeing the bulk of the game. 

 

Sure, the developers may sell a lot of copies, but if the majority of their buyers are easy plat hunters, then most of the people "playing their game" arent even seeing their work.

[IntroPhenom]

12 minutes ago, AJ_-_808 said:

For example. if the game has 10 stages, but rata set the platinum to pop by the end of stage 1.  Someone buys it, does stage 1, then buys the next stack and repeats, never actually seeing the bulk of the game. 

 

Sure, the developers may sell a lot of copies, but if the majority of their buyers are easy plat hunters, then most of the people "playing their game" arent even seeing their work.

 

Much of the content in this thread is regurgitated (and re-regurgitated) content from previous threads, but these are good points that I agree with, and tangential to a forum post I made just the other day about the 11 gold/1 plat trophy list.

 

Now, games that do not require the player to go everywhere and do everything to pop a plat aren't exclusive to Rata, of course; I've finished Oceanhorn and Teslagrad, and in both cases reaching the end of the game isn't required for a platinum trophy.  However, not having to experience the entire presentation is a telltale sign of an insufficient trophy list.  The only Rata title I can think of off the top of my head that does this is Metagal, but there may be others.

1 hour ago, BlitzkriegHottie said:

Ratalaika doesn't deserve any praise. They're awful publishers with an awful business model.

 

But you wouldn't feel that way if you were a small-time developer trying to get a foot in the door. 

 

Despite what many seem to think, I will not agree that Rata is hurting anything or anyone with the titles they produce or how they produce them.  We're not talking about Lizard Lady quality here; we're talking about, in many cases, fun, well put together titles we would probably otherwise not get to play.

 

And let's face it, despite the many outcries from the people who monitor the leader boards out of personal interest, those who top the leader boards would be in the same positions if Rata didn't exist.  Fewer accumulated trophies would be the only difference.

[Property_Damage]

16 hours ago, breakingthegreen said:

 

I wanna point this out because there's a lot of stigma around "trophy w**re" games, now let me be clear in saying that I am not defending games like: Slyde, Road Bustle, or Little Adventure on the Prairie; but I am willing to defend Ratalaika's output for one major reason.

These games would have a much lower chance to come to consoles if trophy hunters (or w**res if you're so inclined) didn't buy them.

They dont necessarily need a price tag, They can go in the free to play section with no platinum trophies and a single stack

[scemopagliaccioh]

You know, being rich doesn't  make you a piece of shit, it just gives you (sometimes, not even always) more opportunities  to exert your will on others.

It's not as easy as small indie good, EA bad.

Just like AAA games do stuff like lootboxes targeting gambling addicts, Ratalaika  targets people addicted to numbers  online, both with their dopamine  receptors fucked up. You don't see youtubers talking about it, because trophy hunting is more niche.

You could argue, that gaming itself is an addiction, and to a lesser extent, I'd agree, but here's the thing, when you play a game, you immerse yourself in a different world, be it for the story, for the characters, the "world" the game takes place, the lore behind it fueling discussion  between you and others, the gameplay, the combat, or maybe you're just competing with a friend.

What's the immersion in this? The number of regional accounts you create? Visiting the Playstation Store? The "pling"? No, it's definitely  these threads I see created every single day, the defense of shit is more enjoyable for  the average Ratalaika  buyer, hence every single day a new thread pops uo .

Videogame is a medium with very low standards, and that's fine, I guess, majority here grew up with  them, and the  level of immersion compared to book reading or a  film is far superior, so we have a soft spot to it, allowing game companies, rich and poor,   to come up with shit they'd be fucked over elsewhere, so being "hidden gems",  in an industry where customers would attack others for not liking a game they like, means absolutely  nothing,  I could find you people that'd say Space Overlord is good,  those small indie devs, they suffer from poor sales because they're a "good" inferior product, and have to prey  on people in vulnerable positions to stay afloat.

I have no sympathy for them just because they're poor, a crack dealer damaging others so that he can provide for his family  is more respectable  than them, as he actually has to work his ass off for finding clients and risking jail, Ratalaika  directly gives them the addicts and it's not like they'd be incarcerated for fucking video games, not to mention, they're free to do  a quick disasterous job, as nobody, saves 2-3 people drowned by the majority will care about what happens after the "pling".

[SKiL_Clash]

16 hours ago, kevao97 said:

the games you mentioned are cool and kept me entertained, I actually enjoyed them

in case of an absolutely ruined account, it may be better to start a new one

It’s an idea that has popped up before. But i will just live with it. My goal is to get a lot of actual good games on my list where eventually those 70 won’t even mater anymore lol. There are a few Games on my list  that I might unhide like the Midnight games. They were actually pretty fun little games. Just wished that you beat all levels for the platinum.

Edited March 21, 2021 by SKiL_Clash

[AJ_Radio]

13 hours ago, cris3f said:

I do find the Ratalaika (and their copycats Sometimes You, EastAsia, etc) business model deplorable. They're a company that publishes mostly junk, exploiting needs of some people to think that they're fantastic gamers by platting loads of shitty games, and even better multiple stacks of the same junk because it's that good. All people are doing is filling their pockets, not the original developers ones you're being really naive thinking otherwise. Of course Sony doesn't give a shit about this all they want is their cut too, they even changed the trophy model to precisely feed that ($$$$$$). A game could be about a turd sitting on the screen, people would click on in and trophies would pop and they would sell it anyway it they made money. And there would be a lot of people here saying it's another fantastisc Rata title anyway.

 

My Name is Mayo 2 being proof of this.

 

Hakoom has a lot of impressive accomplishments on his account, but roughly 90 percent of everything he's done is complete garbage. Before Ratalaika came into the picture it was all about Japanese VNs, a few of which could be done within 15 - 30 minutes. The big difference, besides the language barrier (and I doubt most trophy whores who did Japanese VNs purely for trophies knew much Japanese anyway) is the cost. It costs an arm and a leg to import Vita Japanese games you can only get physically. Practically nobody is doing that anymore because Ratalaika garbage saves you thousands of dollars. I mean literally.

 

13 hours ago, cris3f said:

In the end most of the games will sell anyway if they're good and interesting. And they won't if they're just junk. That's how things should be. The only thing that interests most people here is not if the game is good and fun, but if it's easy... Wow...

 

Practically all of Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales trophies are common on this website (not judging PSN rarity), and I couldn't care less because it is still a good game. I've long considered Insomniac Games to know what quality actually is. Common trophies or not, doesn't matter.

 

For shoestring budget indie games, a majority of people here wouldn't even consider buying them if they hadn't of had easy trophy lists. Even Brian of PS5Trophies fame on YouTube has caved in to buying these shit games. And he turned around and bitched at the developers of Fall Guys on Twitter that the Infallible trophy was just far too difficult and unfair.

 

Give me a fucking break. I think more people here should play Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus on Mein Leben difficulty and do those Super Meat Boy no death runs to know what true challenge really is.

 

13 hours ago, cris3f said:

I do laugh seing people saying that to be on the leaderboards they have to do that and that it's a competition. Well it's a competition to the shittiest place, as looking at the trophies lists of the first few thousands is absolutely deplorable. And unfortunately PSNProfiles does have their good share of the blame on this as they just reflect the deplorable conditions of this "race". Yes, a decency leaderboard should exist for the gamers that really deserve it.

 

This is a theme that will never end. There will always be 3 sides, the shit collectors, the ones that don't go for shit and the ones that don't care. Unfortunately the shit collectors are winning.

 

Warped Tonttu was the highest rank I've seen on the leaderboards who has a quality trophy profile.

 

https://psnprofiles.com/Warped_Tonttu

 

What's funny is this guy was ranked 10 - 30th in the world at some point, but he has dropped to a mere 60th place on the leaderboards.

 

These guys I all consider to have quality profiles, and none of them are nowhere near the higher echelons of the leaderboards:

 

https://psnprofiles.com/Beatminaz

https://psnprofiles.com/Floriiss

https://psnprofiles.com/TheYuriG

https://psnprofiles.com/Marcel_pfs1

 

I'd say roughly 75 - 85 percent of people ranked above me on the leaderboards depend on easy platinums and stacks. It's just ugly to see a profile that has over a 75 percent average rarity, and 80 - 90 percent of all their games consist of Ratalaika stacks and games that took under a hour to finish.

 

12 hours ago, BlitzkriegHottie said:

The vast majority of people that buys their games only do it for the trophies, and if I was a new developer struggling to make a name for myself, putting effort in my work, I would take people only playing my game for the trophies as great offense. Not to mention there's no name to make there, since you're just ignored by the media and your game is buried under all that shovelware.

 

11 hours ago, AJ_-_808 said:

 

I wasnt referring to people that start a game, play maybe 10% through and then put it down for one reason or another.  I was referring to the rata games where people pop the entire trophy list long before completing the game, and then walk away from it.

 

For example. if the game has 10 stages, but rata set the platinum to pop by the end of stage 1.  Someone buys it, does stage 1, then buys the next stack and repeats, never actually seeing the bulk of the game. 

 

Sure, the developers may sell a lot of copies, but if the majority of their buyers are easy plat hunters, then most of the people "playing their game" arent even seeing their work.

 

Exactly. +1 to both of you.

 

11 hours ago, IntroPhenom said:

 

Much of the content in this thread is regurgitated (and re-regurgitated) content from previous threads, but these are good points that I agree with, and tangential to a forum post I made just the other day about the 11 gold/1 plat trophy list.

 

Now, games that do not require the player to go everywhere and do everything to pop a plat aren't exclusive to Rata, of course; I've finished Oceanhorn and Teslagrad, and in both cases reaching the end of the game isn't required for a platinum trophy.  However, not having to experience the entire presentation is a telltale sign of an insufficient trophy list.  The only Rata title I can think of off the top of my head that does this is Metagal, but there may be others.

 

Teslagrad has a few annoying scrolls you have to collect, one in particular where you had to levitate for about 20 - 30 seconds or so and grab it with no room for error. That already makes the game more difficult than virtually most of all Ratalaika titles I've seen so far. You still have to play most of the entire game.

 

Ratalaika however rewards you with a platinum when you are maybe 10 - 20 percent into the game. Most of the game is virtually untouched by the trophy "whores", so the work and effort the developers put in to make a majority of the game is practically thrown straight out the window.

 

And if I were starting out as a developer, that would greatly offend me.

Edited March 21, 2021 by AJ_Radio

[IntroPhenom]

10 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

Teslagrad has a few annoying scrolls you have to collect, one in particular where you had to levitate for about 20 - 30 seconds or so and grab it with no room for error. That already makes the game more difficult than virtually most of all Ratalaika titles I've seen so far. You still have to play most of the entire game.

 

Ratalaika however rewards you with a platinum when you are maybe 10 - 20 percent into the game. Most of the game is virtually untouched by the trophy "whores", so the work and effort the developers put in to make a majority of the game is practically thrown straight out the window.

 

Right about Teslagrad, but my point wasn't regarding difficulty, only that completion isn't necessary to pop the plat.  You don't have to share a screen with the final boss to have 100%.

 

Sorry, but I don't believe that statistic.  Now, I haven't played many (any?) Rata games...unless Just Ignore Them was one, but I don't think so, but 10% completion for a plat?  Come on.  I would need some evidence of this.   Just because only thirty minutes are needed doesn't mean that thirty minutes isn't the bulk of a game.

 

However, as previously stated, I share your disdain for a trophy list that doesn't represent an entire experience of play.  As a trophy fan, were I also a developer, that would rub me the wrong way, too.

[DrBloodmoney]

24 minutes ago, IntroPhenom said:

 

Sorry, but I don't believe that statistic.  Now, I haven't played many (any?) Rata games...unless Just Ignore Them was one, but I don't think so, but 10% completion for a plat?  Come on.  I would need some evidence of this.   Just because only thirty minutes are needed doesn't mean that thirty minutes isn't the bulk of a game.

that would rub me the wrong way, too.

There are some Ratalaika games this is true for (not 10%, that’s ridiculous, but there are a couple where the plat can be achieved at as little as 30% of the full game) but it’s not the norm across all their games.

 

Nor is it exclusive to Ratalaika games - just off the top of my head, Teslagrad, Trine 2, Rainswept & Brothers: A tale of Two Sons are all non-Ratalaika games where the plat pops before the full game is complete, not to mention the hundreds of games where the plat requires only part of the game to be played, for example Call of Duty games, where the trophies often only relate to the short Single Player campaigns, despite MP being the main selling point, or, games like Horizon Zero Dawn or Spiderman where the trophies can all be done on the easiest setting, and no engagement with ‘Normal’ or higher difficulties is required for the platinum, and are reserved for DLC trophies.

 

Rata games definitely do do this sometimes - and it’s silly, and they should stop it -  but anyone who claims it is the case for all Ratalaika games is either uninformed, or being deliberately obsute.

[JourneySilvers]

I'm a huge fan of small, unique indie games. Also a HUGE fan of the rpgmaker horror niche. So for that reason, I'm personally grateful to Ratalaika for giving some of those games a chance at coming to console. My view of trophy hunting is that I just want my profile/platinum list to be full of games that I really love, whether its simple short games or long winded frustrating ones. If a game is fun to me or fits an aesthetic I love, then I'll go for that plat. I'm happy that games like My Big Sister and Red Bow are available on my favorite platform. 

 

I also understand why trophy hunters of a different mindset than me have a problem with them though. For people who trophy hunt competitively, its probably very frustrating to see people climb charts with low effort. I'm not a competitive person myself so I don't really care how many people have higher numbers than me, but again, if thats your thing than Ratalaika is likely a huge annoyance and that opinion is valid.

 

However, I'm happy that they exist just because I can have platinums on my account of a niche genre that I've always loved. I also don't mind going for short plats if the game is cute enough to keep me entertained. But thats just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[AJ_Radio]

11 hours ago, IntroPhenom said:

Sorry, but I don't believe that statistic.  Now, I haven't played many (any?) Rata games...unless Just Ignore Them was one, but I don't think so, but 10% completion for a plat?  Come on.  I would need some evidence of this.   Just because only thirty minutes are needed doesn't mean that thirty minutes isn't the bulk of a game.

There’s a game called Horned Knight, published by 2Awesome Studio. 

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1249-CUSA26258_00-6920210578712389?smcid=psapp

 

For the platinum you just need to complete three levels when the game as a whole has 32 levels. 
 

So on top of being a retro style hardcore wannabe side scroller lacking any originality, the trophy list is equally as lazy. The people aiming for the trophies will ignore about 80 - 90 percent of the game.

 

While people have complained Undertale doesn’t have to be beaten in order to earn its platinum, you still have to play a good portion of it. 
 

Horned Knight just promotes shovelware crap and the trophy list basically screams cashing in for a quick buck. 
 

If that isn’t evident enough, I don’t know what to tell you.

Edited March 22, 2021 by AJ_Radio

[Trumpet_Boi_208]

My problem doesn’t stem from the fact that their platinums are intentionally easy. Developers can make trophy lists as hard or as easy as they want. It comes from when they develop games with the intent to sell easy platinum trophies, while half-assing the development of the game itself. It is insulting to all the developers out there who actually put their everything into making a good game by having their releases covered by endless garbage. Despite hatred from these games by a minority of trophy hunters, which are a minority of gamers, this argument is pointless. As long as trophy leaderboards exist in the way that they do, trophy hunters will still seek out easy platinums, and developers will keep pumping them out.

[Mori]

Searched for 'Sumatra PS4' on YouTube. First few Videos: "EASY platinum", "90 minutes quick platinum", "This weeks easy platinums".

 

It sure is covered a lot and not because it's ezypzy, noooo. It's quality gaming time.

 

Okay, lets check out some comments from the Playstation trailer, I am sure people are hyped and highly anticipating the game.

 

"I read it as Kama Sutra for some odd reason", " I saw monke on trailer I click", "Ok but I want to see this game without the ray tracing on".

 

Sounds good.

 

A few people were actually happy to see the game taking place in their country and that is indeed nice. I am sure all the multiple stackers are here to support the devs (what's their name again?) and show love for Indonesia, right.. right?

 

Just like this YouTuber. Srsly you wont believe his reaction.

 

 

 

------

 

On a serious note, stop acting like you all enjoy shovelware. 99% of the people who play these games do it just for one reason.

I am sure some people geniuenly enjoy a few Rata games, you probably wont find them on PSNP though.

Edited March 22, 2021 by Mori

[DrBloodmoney]

6 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

There’s a game called Horned Knight, published by 2Awesome Studio. 

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1249-CUSA26258_00-6920210578712389?smcid=psapp

 

....

 

If that isn’t evident enough, I don’t know what to tell you.

 

That isn't a Ratalaika game, so I'm not sure what you mean by "If that isn't evidence enough".

Evidence enough of what?

 

The only thing you proved by finding that game to highlight, as opposed to any Ratalaika game, is that the issue is not with Ratalaika, but with broad spectrum of games across different publishers.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Mori said:

On a serious note, stop acting like you all enjoy shovelware. 99% of the people who play these games do it just for one reason.

I am sure some people geniuenly enjoy a few Rata games, you probably wont find them on PSNP though.

 

I'm on PSNP, okay?

 

Hello!  ? ☺️

 

I'm getting really bored of making my point about these games as thoughtfully and accurately as I can, only to be lectured to by some contingent of the trophy hunting 'gatekeeping elite', insisting that I am being disingenuous, and just trying to "act like I enjoy shovelware".

 

Let's be clear:

There are profiles out there that are a fucking toxic-waste disaster zone -  filled to the brim with stacks of Ratalaika games and nothing else - No question about that.

But the focus some people have on blaming one publisher for a prevailing trend is silly.

 

Blaming a single publisher for what you see as the downfall of Trophy Hunting is a fallacy. Just because it is possible to make a profile with hundreds of Platinums by abusing region stacking, doesn't mean the games are to blame, or the publisher or the developers.

The people doing it are to blame.

 

What these 'gatekeepers' have to open their minds to, is the possibility that some people do actually like some of these games.

 

There is a world of difference between someone who has a few Ratalaika games spread among all the other games on their profile, and people who have 8 stacks of every Ratalaika game on their profile, exclusively, at the expense of anything else.

 

You will find some Ratalaika games on my profile.

You will find some EastAsiaSoft game on there too, (I think - I'm less familiar with their catalogue, but there's bound to be a couple, at least.)

Certainly you will find some Artifex Mundi games (The publisher who used to catch all this flack before it was Ratalaika's turn at bat).

 

What you won't find, is My Name is Mayo, My Name is Mayo 2, Slyde, 100 Top Rated, Little Adventure on the Prairie or the litany of genuinely exploitative games that are pure shovelware, and only exist for cheap trophies.

It's funny how little flack those games seem to take, in comparison with Ratalaika games, nowadays.

I wonder why that is?

Do you think it might be something to do with just how many people did put those on their profiles, back before Ratalaika were on the scene, and before they decided to become Zealots of the Church of Trophy Elitism?

 

I have 10(?) or so Ratalaika games on my profile, I think, and they are not stacked to the rafters. I play them like I play any other game, and either end up enjoying them, or not enjoying them, at roughly the same frequency as other games.

Out of 625 games, that is hardly moving the needle much in terms of leaderboard position, and I am just as much in the position as a lot of the 'gatekeepers' nowadays, as a I watch my position on the leaderboards be eroded away by my refusal to stack hundreds of easy platinums.

At one point, a few years ago I was in the top 60 or 70 of my countries leaderboard. Now, I'm lucky if I break the top 150, and I'm sliding downwards every day.

 

That's fine by me.

It's the price of playing what I will enjoy, rather than what will keep me competitive in that arms-race.

 

But I still play some Ratalaika games!

 

I don't play all of their games regardless of how they look - I use the same decision making apparatus I use for all other games: Does it appeal? What is the price to potential enjoyment ratio? Is it in a sale right now? What do I feel like playing right now? 

 

I don't play them as a way to 'pad' my profile - not to sound egotistical, but I don't feel like I need to. My profile is plenty full, by my standards.

 

I don't stack them 8 regions deep - If any Rata game is stacked on my profile, it is because a vita version came free with the big-boy console version. I'm not going to pay extra money for multiple regions of the same short game, but if it's there for free, and it was an hour well passed, then yeah, I'll do it again on the vita. I have no problem with that. Hardly the same thing as paying for 8 regions of the same game.

 

 

If that offends some people, or doesn't fit the narrative they want to apply to these games (namely, that the only reason anyone would play these is to buy cheap platinums to stack all over a profile of EZPZ games,) then I'm sorry. 

 

That doesn't mean I'm at fault. 

It means the narrative is wrong, or at least, that it is not all-encompassing.

Edited March 22, 2021 by DrBloodmoney

[Mori]

40 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said:

-snip- 

 

Then you are the 1%.

[DrBloodmoney]

13 minutes ago, Mori said:

 

Then you are the 1%.

 

? I guess so 

 

I just don't think I'm in as small a club as it is made out to be, and I think it's mean to make people feel bad about playing any Ratalaika games, just because they want to play something that appeals to them.

 

There's nothing wrong with judging someone for eating nothing but fast-food, (maybe do it quietly, but still, I'm with you) but having a Big Mac every now and them shouldn't be a shameful practice, if you like the taste.

 

Moderation in all things, as the saying goes. ☺️

 

 

Personally, my litmus test for a profile is this:

 

If I scroll through the list of games, and I have to hunt to find the easy-peasy games, then that is a perfectly fine profile.

 

If I scroll through the list of games, and I have to hunt to find the non-easy-peasy games, then that is... something else.

Edited March 22, 2021 by DrBloodmoney

[AJ_Radio]

6 hours ago, Trumpet_Boi_208 said:

My problem doesn’t stem from the fact that their platinums are intentionally easy. Developers can make trophy lists as hard or as easy as they want. It comes from when they develop games with the intent to sell easy platinum trophies, while half-assing the development of the game itself. It is insulting to all the developers out there who actually put their everything into making a good game by having their releases covered by endless garbage. Despite hatred from these games by a minority of trophy hunters, which are a minority of gamers, this argument is pointless. As long as trophy leaderboards exist in the way that they do, trophy hunters will still seek out easy platinums, and developers will keep pumping them out.

 

I never once brought up any TellTale Game and looked down on people who play them because you still have to finish the story. The platinum trophies are practically playing from Point A to Point B and there you have it. But the majority, which is people playing on Steam on their PC computer, couldn't care less about achievements or trophies, they bought them because of the stories and the actual content.

 

These lists and the games themselves however are sold on their achievements, which is already a sign they are garbage. Slyde is garbage. My Name is Mayo 2 is garbage. But people keeping buying them.

 

That is why 100 - 300 platinums doesn't mean shit anymore. I respect the guy who has been trophy hunting for over a decade and earned 300 platinums from quality games such as Dead Space 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Dark Souls, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Shovel Knight, Super Meat Boy, Hollow Knight, etc etc etc. With enough money and a little time anybody can grab 300 platinums within a year of playing by stacking utter garbage. I don't have to say their profile is good because it isn't. Quantity over quality is all that matters on the leaderboards, and the people who put the time and effort into difficult games and take their time with games they enjoy and want to play are getting put on the backburner.

 

Hakoom, for all that he's done, is playing a numbers game that will eventually be his fate if he hasn't reached that point already. It's all stupid in the end really. We're just doing a little more than what the average gamer does on Steam. We're not anymore special than the next guy out there who buys just a few games a year and drops a game once he's finished with the story.