Playstation 5 a flop?

[The Alchemist]

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

 

 

 

have the Ctrl, "C" and "V" keys on your keyboard got any click left in 'em, or have they just eroded away at this point? 

 

 

 

To be fair, 6 paragraphs and no mention of California. I'd say that's an improvement.

[JediKnight_327]

No doubt a massive flop in terms of exclusives compared to previous generations. Its a decent piece of hardware but if it wasnt for FOMO I wouldnt have spent £450 on it, and I'm certainly not spending £70 on any game let alone cross-gen games.

 

As for the sales and revenue argument, it didnt help the wii and its not going to help the PS5 either. I dont care if more casuals bought it during lockdown, or if more influencers are buying it because its trendy to tell the world you got your hands on one.

7 hours ago, enaysoft said:

lol. It's only been like 2 years...

 

Speaking of actual flops, how about Ouya, or Google Stadia?

 

Amusing Google Stadia is such a flop, there's probably not even a Stadia forum that exists, in order to post something like this on, and do people even remember Google Stadia?

 

PS5 has sold well, imagine how much more would have been sold if you could actual walk into a store and buy one at anytime?!

 

Just imagine the level of competition if Google decided to made a proper console and invested in games development instead of going down the streaming service route.

[MrShovelware]

All my ps5 is good for is spamming shovelware games to become the best platinum holder in Australia.

 

otherwise it’s all PCS for the exclusives.

[WorldsBestSpy]

I use my ps5 everyday. exclusives aint there but thats to be expected of sony at this point, we'll get some bangers soon though especially with psvr 2 on the horizon.

[TJ_Solo]

18 minutes ago, WorldsBestSpy said:

I use my ps5 everyday. exclusives aint there but thats to be expected of sony at this point, we'll get some bangers soon though especially with psvr 2 on the horizon.

 

Ragnorok, Horizon Forbidden West, and GT7 aren't exclusives?

[diskdocx]

59 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

 

Ragnorok, Horizon Forbidden West, and GT7 aren't exclusives?

They're all on PS4 as well.

[TJ_Solo]

10 minutes ago, diskdocx said:

They're all on PS4 as well.

 

So? That isn't how the word works.

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by TJ_Solo

[JAK-KRIEG]

8 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

 

So? That isn't how the word works.

 

I think he means in this case you don't need a PS5 talking specific PS5 only exclusives.

Edited November 10, 2022 by JAK-KRIEG

[The Alchemist]

There's also Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank etc.

 

Regardless of if people like these games or not, or if people think they could have also ran fine on PS4 were they to have launched on it, is irrelevant. There's been a tonne of content for PS5 in its first 2 years. It's baffling to me that anyone thinks the first 2 years of PS4 was better by comparison. I love the PS4 generation, it introduced me to some of my all time favourite games, but until 2015, almost 2016 even, I had very little to play on mine, and I even bought another PS3 (sold my original before I got my launch PS4) during that time to catch up on some games missed, that's how barren it was in those initial years of the PS4, outside of a handful of titles. PS5 by comparison has had imo the best launch lineup of any console that I can remember, and also the best first 2 years of any console. If people think the PS5 is bad in that regard then I'd hate to think what their thoughts are on the Xbox side, who've hardly had a single exclusive since launch. 

[TJ_Solo]

20 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said:

I think he means in this case you don't need a PS5 talking specific PS5 only exclusives.

 

Clearly. Still doesn't make 1+1=3 just because you know the logic being used to reach the incorrect answer.

Until this covid-era people haven't used exclusives to exclude games that are on the same family of consoles. Not when it was cross-gen games with PS3 and PSP/Vita or PS3 and PS4. We were fine regarding Persona games, LBP, and old Gran Turismo titles as exclusive to PlayStation even when there were times they had cross-gen entries. 

 

This new "it's not just on PS5" is weird propaganda to me. It is so bad that even when there a PS5 only games they are ignored just to be able to say PS5 has no PS5 games. 

Edited November 10, 2022 by TJ_Solo

[Conor]

OP either has a serious humiliation kink or just trolling because this is the dumbest thing I’ve seen outside of Twitter since the Musk takeover ???

[JAK-KRIEG]

4 minutes ago, Stan Lee said:

OP either has a serious humiliation kink or just trolling because this is the dumbest thing I’ve seen outside of Twitter since the Musk takeover ???

Clearly in the commercial sense it's a resounding success but I still think a lot of PS5 owners are asking themselves was it really that necessary to get one asap on launch and are you really missing that much by not having one besides faster loading.

[The_Jigsaw_Cult]

On 9/11/2022 at 11:30 PM, vanessaking2 said:

I read this and now I am glad that I do not own a PS5 yet. I am happy with my PS4.

If Sony does not act soon it will become the biggest Playstation flop.

Why would you come here just to start shit? Literally no one cares haha we all love PlayStation here 

[Lance_87]

Oh well, OP read that. It must be genuine...

[Maxemole]

I genuinely think this person is trolling lmao

[Conor]

39 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said:

Clearly in the commercial sense it's a resounding success but I still think a lot of PS5 owners are asking themselves was it really that necessary to get one asap on launch and are you really missing that much by not having one besides faster loading.

Few consoles have been absolute must-buys in their first 2-3 years given how long it takes for developers to get used to the capabilities of the machines a build up a massive catalogue of games. I got one because I wanted one. It runs many previous gen games better which alone made it worthwhile as a backwards compatible machine too. It’s up to the individual person to decide if it is worth it for themselves, if they failed to take the pros and cons into consideration before making an impulsive purchase then that’s entirely on them. None of that makes the PS5 a “flop” in any way, shape or form.

[diskdocx]

2 hours ago, TJ_Solo said:

 

So? That isn't how the word works.

 

You're being unnecessarily pedantic in the application of the word here. In the context of this thread, the post you reference clearly refers to games exclusively on the PS5.

 

Exclusive isn't a word that applies only to gaming. The fact that general use of 'exclusive' in gaming refers to platform specific titles, not console specific titles isn't relevant. Poster was using an appropriate English word, and the point is valid that there aren't, at this stage, many PS5 only must have titles. There really isn't a need to start a word police argument here. You understand what he meant. I understand what he meant. Point doesn't become invalid because of the word chosen.

 

I've already weighed in that the PS5 absolutely is not a flop, and the technical ability upgrades playing PS4 games has rendered that console, for me, all but obsolete.

 

Were it not for backward compatibility, however, I would probably not be spending very much time on the PS5 playing PS5 only games.

[JAK-KRIEG]

31 minutes ago, Stan Lee said:

Few consoles have been absolute must-buys in their first 2-3 years given how long it takes for developers to get used to the capabilities of the machines a build up a massive catalogue of games. I got one because I wanted one. It runs many previous gen games better which alone made it worthwhile as a backwards compatible machine too. It’s up to the individual person to decide if it is worth it for themselves, if they failed to take the pros and cons into consideration before making an impulsive purchase then that’s entirely on them. None of that makes the PS5 a “flop” in any way, shape or form.

Impulsive purchase is what we all did wasn't it? No one really knew how the first two years would go unless you would claim to know the future. I honestly thought I would use my ps5 more with what we knew, but yeah I was disappointed. No one except op is calling it a flop by the way in case you haven't noticed.

[Mellenthin]

It took me roughly 2 years to even consider buying a PS4. Dragon Age: Inquisition, Alien: Isolation and Resident Evil Revelations 2 swayed me in short order and I expect the same thing with the PS5.

 

Once games such as Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2, XCOM 3, Dragon's Dogma 2 etc arrive, the real fun will begin.

 

The first few years for any new console will always be dependent upon people buying into the hype and supporting it for what will come in the future.

 

It's just what it is and how the economy works. If nobody would buy anything at release, companies would close down real faster than you might think.

[GregHouse007]

I upgrade my consoles based on the games not the specs. If I wanted to play with better graphics I would simply buy a gaming PC. That's why I never felt the need to buy this "PS4 pro" that played the exact same games.

 

PS5 has almost no exclusives, there's no incentive for me to upgrade to the next gen. All the most played games people are playing right now I can play them on my PS4 just fine. Warzone, Apex Legends, Overwatch 2, God Of War Ragnarock, Fortnite, Destiny 2, Genshin Impact, Horizon 2, FIFA 23, etc... And judging by the announced releases for next year, it looks like it will take a while for that to change. I follow the "upcoming server shutdowns thread" here because I expected everything on PS4 to "collapse" a few years after the PS5 arrived but nothing has happened. A lot more games are releasing than shutting down, because of course, PS4 games are all also PS5 games. So, they are all "current gen games" as well.

 

I upgraded to a PS4 in October of 2015 and I remember feeling that "I took too long to upgrade", we are already past that timeframe into the PS5 era. Back then there was nothing releasing for PS3 anymore, nothing announced for the next years as well, severals servers were shutting down, there were too many games that had been released in the PS4 that I wanted to play (Bloodborne, MKX, Witcher 3, etc...) and so many great games had been announced ALL for PS4 in the next couple of years. I felt I had no choice. It was... necessary to upgrade

 

Things are VERY different right now for PS4. I feel like I would only buy a PS5 right now if my PS4 breaks

Edited November 10, 2022 by GregHouse007

[ChiefMichigan]

If you think the quality of the PS5 is a flop, then we can have that argument quite easily and still constructively. 

 

But if anyone tries to argue it's a financial flop, that's hilarious. The standard edition hasn't been sold at a loss from August 2021 to the present. The PS5 is one of the fastest-selling platforms in history and is looking at PS3 numbers in a pessimistic situation. Realistically, it will pass the Wii and PS1. It's not even crazy to think it will match the PS4 hardware sales (but not a given). 

[AJ_Radio]

19 hours ago, DENNIS330bmw said:

Your „input“ is always the same bitching about the same stuff .. like a loop.. 

 

18 hours ago, BrandedBerserk said:

 

Your inputs are always welcomed but I'm curious as to if you have some sort of template to follow or an automated system in place for your posts lmao.

 

18 hours ago, pinkrobot_pb said:

If he has a template, he unfortunately forgot to check the "Hurr San Diego" checkbox this time.

 

18 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

 

 

 

have the Ctrl, "C" and "V" keys on your keyboard got any click left in 'em, or have they just eroded away at this point? 

 

 

 

Riiiight... At least I'm not afraid to make unpopular opinions. I can make the alternate side of things without 'kowtowing' to what every other person is saying.

 

This console had a rocky start largely thanks to the chip shortage, which affects not only gaming but a lot of other industries. Right now I just see more of the same that we already got with PS4. And when I finally get around to God of War Ragnarok, it's probably going to be another God of War 2018. Still a very good game, but not the cultural masterpiece many people claim it to be.

 

You guys act like people shouldn't make critical opinions. If you feel I'm stepping over the line too far, then say it.

[melodicmizery]

i finally got one maybe a month ago. i only played 2 games on it. far cry and resident evil. which i previously finished on ps4. the graphics were a slight bump up but theres really not much more you can do. one noticeable thing i do like is the load times are alot faster. 

the xmb menu confuses me horribly. i dont like it at all. switching form the ps3 ps4 then ps5 is a learning curve. i always hit the wrong buttons in the menu. and there seems to be a huge clutter of shit on my screen that i just have to pause and say why the fuck is all this shit even here. it also seems less friendly orientated. let me explain this, on ps3 your list of friends is the first thing you saw and looked at when you signed in. on ps4 it got a little more distant by putting this in a tab you had to go and look at to see whose online. which is understandable as lists grew over 100 people. there was still easy group chats and such on ps4 and parties you just had to go a extra step to do so. on ps5 i have no clue where nay of that shit is. i dont think there is even a "whats new" scrollbar. where you can see your friends activities. if there is i either havent found it or i havent spent enough time looking for it.

there isnt much difference. but i also havent spent alot of time on it. even though my ps5 is new i had more interest in going to my backlog on ps3 and ps4 and doing that instead of checking out my new machine. its nice to stare at on my shelf. its a huge beast that looks like its packed with badass power. and maybe it is i dunno. im glad i have one, but im going to have to use it alot more to get use to the menu i guess. i think maybe itll be better for future things, like more 4k and 8k stuff when it catches up to that being more of the norm. alot of people are still on 1080 tvs because it still looks fine. i felt the same about ps4, i hated it, it took me a good 2 or 3 years to say this is a pretty good machine.

im also old and hate change. and wave my hand in the air when kids are on my grass. so im pretty grumpy tbh and dont enjoy anything. so really my opinion prob dont matter and sorry for wasting anyones time who read any of it lol

Edited November 11, 2022 by melodicmizery

[Conker]

either there stupi,trolling or just butthurt they don't have one  but  a flop yeah sure it is.........moron 

[Darling Baphomet]

17 hours ago, JediKnight_327 said:

No doubt a massive flop in terms of exclusives compared to previous generations. Its a decent piece of hardware but if it wasnt for FOMO I wouldnt have spent £450 on it, and I'm certainly not spending £70 on any game let alone cross-gen games.

 

I'm fairly certain I pointed this out previously in this very thread, but at this point in the PS4's life cycle the only memorable exclusive it had (also the only one with more than 80 on Metacritic) was Bloodborne. It wasn't until 2016 and beyond that all the games we remember the PS4 for started to come out - Horizon, Uncharted, God of War, TLoU2, etc. The early PS4 exclusives, while adequate, were hardly remarkable. Who in 2022 is still talking about Until Dawn, Infamous, Driveclub, or Knack? Not many people, if any, because while all these games were adequate, that's all they really managed to be.

 

Meanwhile the PS5 has already had several hits, even if you refuse to qualify cross-gen PS5 games as exclusives. Demon's Souls satisfies the Soulsborne fans' cravings, this time without the terribly frame paced 30 fps, and on top of that we have two very well reviewed exclusives in Rift Apart and Returnal. But in reality we have far more than that, because releasing on PS4 as well does not change the fact that God of War and Horizon Forbidden West are fantastic Playstation exclusives, far better than anything released in the first few years of the PS4's lifecycle. And that's to say nothing of the other less impressive exclusives such as Sackboy and Gran Turismo 7.

 

Nevermind the fact that you can play almost all of the PS4's exclusives in 4k and 60 fps, which by itself would guarantee a strong launch for PS5 compared to PS4.