maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) To make a trophy lists that contain a trophy for completing the game. I don't care if the game is easy, super easy or ridiculously easy, just to make a trophy that related for beat the game to the very end. The reason i said this is because last night i played paradox soul, cybarian and metagal to the very end, and these games are actually fun, but most people earn the plat and delete the game. Edited July 14, 2019 by maormaor13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DEI2EK Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 then rata wouldn't be able to sell their quick 5 minute plat games 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pot1414 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 That's a slippery slope.Sony can't tell developers what trophies to include. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beyondthegrave07 Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, DEI2EK said: then rata wouldn't be able to sell their quick 5 minute plat games Yeah, you're going to destroy a company's entire business model with this idea. I mean, WHAT WILL RATA DO THEN?!? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DEI2EK Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beyondthegrave07 said: Yeah, you're going to destroy a company's entire business model with this idea. I mean, WHAT WILL RATA DO THEN?!? not seeing a downside here tbh 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekyumeeee Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Since trophies are a requirement for games, I would like to at least see Sony step up a bit and prevent these half-assed "novelty" games, or whatever you want to call them, from having platinums. Other than that, I don't think they should dictate developers on what types of trophies to include. It is unusual for there to not be a trophy for completing the game, but if that's what the developer decides, then so be it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay_Cash said: I would like to at least see Sony step up a bit and prevent these half-assed "novelty" games, or whatever you want to call them, from having platinums. Why? So that you feel better about your full-assed hardcore games? Live and let live, mate. Nobody's forcing you to even pay attention to those games. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Clown Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If they imported the same achievement list these games have on Steam, then yeah, it would require you to beat the game. In Cybarian's case, beating the game without taking any damage too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, maormaor13 said: To make a trophy lists that contain a trophy for completing the game. I don't care if the game is easy, super easy or ridiculously easy, just to make a trophy that related for beat the game to the very end. The reason i said this is because last night i played paradox soul, cybarian and metagal to the very end, and these games are actually fun, but most people earn the plat and delete the game. I mean, you are the reason these exploitative trophy lists exist in the first place. If people didn't buy them multiple times each to pad out their profiles, developers wouldn't have bothered doing it. Something like Metagal had a lot of potential for an interesting trophy list, but people would rather just get a +1 on their profiles than actually experience it fully, so all of that potential went out the window. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datboy1991 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 There’s an easy loophole here for devs, mainly just ending the game earlier than originally intended, and then you lose that extra content that you enjoyed. Agree with the problem, but the solution fixes nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: I mean, you are the reason these exploitative trophy lists exist in the first place. If people didn't buy them multiple times each to pad out their profiles, developers wouldn't have bothered doing it. Something like Metagal had a lot of potential for an interesting trophy list, but people would rather just get a +1 on their profiles than actually experience it fully, so all of that potential went out the window. But RATA games are easy enough and i don't care about that. If they put a trophy for beating the game, every trophy hunter still buy these games, 30 minutes plat or 2-3 hours plat is the same for me. Edited July 14, 2019 by maormaor13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, DEI2EK said: not seeing a downside here tbh But what about....? Nevermind. I can't find a downside to this either! ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post B1rvine Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, maormaor13 said: The reason i said this is because last night i played paradox soul, cybarian and metagal to the very end, and these games are actually fun, but most people earn the plat and delete the game. You have 750 "non completion" type plats on your account, most started around thirty minutes to an hour after the platinum was earned, including Grass Cutter right after Cybarian... Welp, acknowledgement is the first step to healing. Edited July 14, 2019 by B1rvine 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I would agree to a point. I mean, it would be nice to have a trophy for completing a game all the way when there is none. But I don't think developers should be forced to do such a thing. It's really up to the player if they want to go for everything or not. Though having said that, it can be disheartening when you get to 100% in the game and you get nothing, no trophy, no ingame reward, nothing at all for all your hard earned work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrHambone Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Then reach out to Sony or start a petition. I totally agree with you however, they are all making money off these easy and quick platinums so my bet is that they won't change anything. I played Paradox Soul to the end as well. Ok game, still a short game if you ignore trophies. I'm working on finishing Cybarian and I wasn't a fan of Metagal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa King Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I'm willing to bet that most people who buy every stack of these "hand me some trophies" games aren't doing it because they like them. Rata and the like know what's making sales happen and it's not the games, so why would they change? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, DrHambone said: Then reach out to Sony or start a petition. I totally agree with you however, they are all making money off these easy and quick platinums so my bet is that they won't change anything. I played Paradox Soul to the end as well. Ok game, still a short game if you ignore trophies. I'm working on finishing Cybarian and I wasn't a fan of Metagal. I don’t care about easy plats, just about plats that can be obtained without finishing the game. RATA games are fun, blasting agent and league of evil were the best ones. Edited July 14, 2019 by maormaor13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DF007gamer Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 So you want a trophy for finishing the game in 10 mins instead of the 5 mins it takes to get the plat in some stupid half ass games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post x7eight Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 The only thing thing Sony should force developers to do is make their trophies obtainable and not glitched or broken. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Sony probably couldn't give a single fuck about trophies. They've got bigger things to worry about. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I expect everyone who complains about that easy games to plat either Super Meat Boy, Street Fighter X Tekken or Trackmania Turbo by the end of this week. If you fail, you're officially a bloody casual gamer. Go for it and show the gaming world your Ballz of Steel™. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Sony has already been telling everyone what they think about trophies for years. Doesn’t seem like some people want to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZombieDictator Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Ratalaika would just add a cheat code that skips to the end of the game if beating it was required. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copanele Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Sony should force companies to stop releasing unfinished games then patch them afterwards on their console (hey there anthem/fallout76/any assassin creed with day one 50 gb patch) Trophies eh... No. I mean they are fun collectibles but making a parallel, i develop software for car engines. If someone complained that "man i reached 10000 rpm where is my trophy on the board?you should IMPLEMENT THAT" i would be "did you hit your head while braking? Purpose is to drive from point a to point b without the engine exploding or starting to make popcorn." At least that's how i see the whole situation I mean yes its a trophy hunting site and trophies are addicting aint denying that, but they are nothing more than additional blings. It's the game that matters to the developer /publisher. Also never forget you are the customer, you have the money, check on your needs. Don't like it don't buy it. Lowkey honestly maybe if you ask nicely ratalaika games to add a trophy for finishing a game maybe they will actually implement it Nicely is the problematic part. Didn't have much interaction with the company's games though so i have no idea how serious they are in terms of game development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefourfoldroot Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 But completing a game means different things to different people anyway. For example, many complained that the Spyro 3 platinum didn't require 100% completion as previous games did. I tend to like trophies that get you to play games in different ways rather than purely getting through them, but I have no problem either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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