ArmoredSnowman Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 First I heard of this game, but seeing as I have a PSVR, I don't see the reason for all the hate. If people don't have a VR, then don't play the game? But you'll also be missing out on a lot of awesome VR games, so... :/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upendo_Vitani Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I think it's stupid to have vr only dlc. Why should I be locked out from earning (easy) trophies just because I didn't buy a $600 piece of equipment I have zero interest in? That is a paywall and that is an issue for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post communistwookiee Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 Man. The sense of entitlement in this community hurts me sometimes. The game looks good. Just play it and don't worry about your completion. Just play it on an alt account. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iGGTheEnd Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 I don't understand how a trophy hunting community doesn't understand that trophies are usually designed to show off the entirety of a game and lists aren't made to cater to trophy hunters. People should honestly be happy that you can get the plat without VR and they added the VR trophies as DLC. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish613 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, aZombieDictator said: Extremely annoyed with it. Needing to have VR to 100% a game is a bit ridiculous. First time something like this has happened too that I know of. Every trophy list is either no VR or all VR but now we have a mix. The first instance that I know of was almost 10 years ago with LittleBigPlanet 2. They came out with the PsMove DLC pack which was only playable with the Move controller. So you couldn't 100% that game with the Move controller. This might be the first instance with VR, but not first instance in general. And like I said, that LBP2 instance is the first one that I know of.... there could have been something before that too. Hate when developers don't put more time and thought into trophies. Al though, i can't blame them. I'm sure trophies/achievements are the last thing on their mind when making their video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_M0us3 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fish613 said: This might be the first instance with VR, but not first instance in general. And like I said, that LBP2 instance is the first one that I know of.... there could have been something before that too. Super Stardust Ultra was the first instance of VR required for DLC trophies, in 2016. Concrete Genie is now the second one. 10 minutes ago, Fish613 said: Hate when developers don't put more time and thought into trophies. Al though, i can't blame them. I'm sure trophies/achievements are the last thing on their mind when making their video game. Ratalaika do have trophies first in mind afterall. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It’s their big selling point... and this hurts me. Edited October 7, 2019 by MaxieM0us3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShaka Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, iGGTheEnd said: I don't understand how a trophy hunting community doesn't understand that trophies are usually designed to show off the entirety of a game and lists aren't made to cater to trophy hunters. People should honestly be happy that you can get the plat without VR and they added the VR trophies as DLC. When Developers stop making mp trophies part of the platinum but add them as dlc set then I will be totally happy and this will be a better world ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_M0us3 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GoldenShaka said: When Developers stop making mp trophies part of the platinum but add them as dlc set then I will be totally happy and this will be a better world What would happen if a game is entirely online then, like multiplayer? Edited October 7, 2019 by MaxieM0us3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftenMiescha Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 You're all complaining about the producers and such, just about not to use easy trophies...But did you even considered/interested that the developer is not aware of a sub-scene like trophy hunters? You're claiming that it's not right to use VR trophies to g et 100%, but you should know that you're not the main target for such games, but regular playing buyers that got the game due to interests and not by looking up on misc. trophy guides. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomFear94 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, iGGTheEnd said: I don't understand how a trophy hunting community doesn't understand that trophies are usually designed to show off the entirety of a game and lists aren't made to cater to trophy hunters. People should honestly be happy that you can get the plat without VR and they added the VR trophies as DLC. It's better than shoehorning it in for the platinum I agree but TBH a more fleshed out standalone VR experience would have been far better. It also makes it bitter to swallow for completionists without VR that their 100% is being spoiled by an (apparently) 30 minute dlc with three measly trophies. IMO the main issue is that it's a bit unreasonable to have VR only trophies, even in DLC, on a game where VR is an entirely optional extra. That's the issue. I think most people would have presumed (as did I) that you could get all trophies with or without VR. If Resident Evil 7 did this I could imagine some backlash from the trophy community, ultimately VR sets aren't cheap. Unless I'm mistaken this game has primarily been marketed as a 'standard' game WITH VR, not a VR game which can be played without VR for a lesser experience. Just doesn't quite feel right, idk. 4 minutes ago, DaftenMiescha said: You're all complaining about the producers and such, just about not to use easy trophies...But did you even considered/interested that the developer is not aware of a sub-scene like trophy hunters? You're claiming that it's not right to use VR trophies to g et 100%, but you should know that you're not the main target for such games, but regular playing buyers that got the game due to interests and not by looking up on misc. trophy guides. This is correct, in the sense that the developers shouldn't get a backlash for this even if I'm personally disappointed as it doesn't really 'ruin' anything. Equally I don't think an oversight can just be entirely dismissed just because it doesn't affect the masses. Ultimately trophies are a required feature in gaming and should be thought through properly. Edited October 7, 2019 by PhantomFear94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShaka Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, MaxieM0us3 said: What would happen if a game is entirely online then, like multiplayer? Hmm, like some free to play, no platinum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soraking1991 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Fish613 said: The first instance that I know of was almost 10 years ago with LittleBigPlanet 2. They came out with the PsMove DLC pack which was only playable with the Move controller. So you couldn't 100% that game with the Move controller. Actually, it was worse... LBP2 has another DLC that requires you to have the PSVita When I first saw that this game had PSVR trophies as DLC, I knew it was going to be controversial here in the forums. I'm glad I have PSVR and will be able to get all trophies when the time comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_M0us3 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, GoldenShaka said: Hmm, like some free to play, no platinum Like a full price game online multiplayer game? Nah I want my platinum! You can just pass it if it bothers you this much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) I wonder if this would work in shareplay? Like you have a friend with a VR headset to do the VR only trophies for you? I could guinea pig it for someone. And by "guinea pig" I mean do this once and share the results. Not do this for everyone if it works! ? Edited October 7, 2019 by Beyondthegrave07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin_2943 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I feel this is a blatant cash grab they see the VR is not popular so they start promoting this amazing looking game hype it up get everyone excited then say hey you wanna actually finish it? But the hardware that cost more than your whole same system plus the game combined That said I'll probably wait on this game till a black Friday sale in the future where might snag a ps vr and the game for cheap Can anyone with vr answer this. I'm super nearsighted and need my glasses to see further than like 6 inches infront of me can I still use vr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TazDevilz1986 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Some nice VR marketing right there. I decided to sell mine after Bravo Team. I wasn't feeling to sticking around for more. But it was a good expierence atleast. 2 hours ago, ArmoredSnowman said: First I heard of this game, but seeing as I have a PSVR, I don't see the reason for all the hate. If people don't have a VR, then don't play the game? But you'll also be missing out on a lot of awesome VR games, so... :/ I do agree there are some nice VR games out there, But there isn't really a huge selection of games i was looking for other than Driveclub VR and a couple others. There wasn't any good exclusive racing games for the headset other than Driveclub VR. The only other smaller racing game was Tiny Trax and it's a budget indie racing title. Other than that there is a nice selection of shooters and Adventure/Platform games like Moss and Astro Bot. Also a huge selection of games are pretty much crap like titles no other people wanna play at all. You maybe see max 100/200 game owners for those atleast, so it says a lot about the interest. Wipeout Omega Collection you can do this without the VR headset. Same as for Dirt Rally and GT Sport. I should have done Moss, Job Simulator, and a few others. But i didn't feel to pay for them almost 100€ for only a couple titles. The VR isn't for everyone, although for me it was not a bad headset, i wasn't getting motion sickness or anything after playing more and more with it. But i just didn't feel it was worth to keep to expierence more titles. Especially when i got it for Starblood Arena witch i couldn't do in time before the shutdown. So in my eyes the investment in the VR was a mistake pretty much. But i had fun with Driveclub VR, Doom VFR, Astrobot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxie_M0us3 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Beyondthegrave07 said: I wonder if this would work in shareplay? Like you have a friend with a VR headset to do the VR only trophies for you? I could guinea pig it for someone. I have never ever heard of someone doing this, but on standard PS4 games, only the Share Play host can earn trophies. Basically, anyone joining share play cannot take over with a VR headset. The PS4 would need receiving the power of the VR headset at distance, which at my knowledge isn’t possible. Nice try, you gotta borrow a VR headset via a friend, or rent it somehow. Edited October 7, 2019 by MaxieM0us3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep_Space_5D Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Cilbi said: People who don't have 100% accounts... why exactly do you care if there's a 100% you can't get without VR? It’s simple: Because I don’t have 100% yet but I want it in the future. Edited October 7, 2019 by Deep_Space_5D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrophyChief Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I’ll come back to this game when I pick up a VR set. Silver lining is saving money on a cheaper VR set and cheaper game later on. Too bad they will lose a few initial sales because of the VR mode included from trophy hunters/completionists but something worth playing down the road. In fact, they may benefit of increased VR sales because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yowzagabowza Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Upendo_Vitani said: I think it's stupid to have vr only dlc. Why should I be locked out from earning (easy) trophies just because I didn't buy a $600 piece of equipment I have zero interest in? That is a paywall and that is an issue for me. $600? Where? In Australia? PSVR is nowhere NEAR $600. I think the game looks corny but I like the trophy list. Not being able to 100% it does suck, but at least they kept the VR ones away from the plat. And with the new trend of releasing MP and NG+ trophies as dlc later, I don't care about 100%s as much as I used to. Edited October 7, 2019 by yowzagabowza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leenewbe Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) sux but at least the vr is separate to the plat. Edited October 7, 2019 by Leenewbe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MaxieM0us3 said: I have never ever heard of someone doing this, but on standard PS4 games, only the Share Play host can earn trophies. Basically, anyone joining share play cannot take over with a VR headset. The PS4 would need receiving the power of the VR headset at distance, which at my knowledge isn’t possible. Nice try, you gotta borrow a VR headset via a friend, or rent it somehow. Ah, so it wouldn't recognize the fact that I have a VR. Lol. I wonder how it'd work the other way around then? Never used shareplay before so I have no idea. Either way, doesn't fix the problem. Edited October 7, 2019 by Beyondthegrave07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandA60VISE Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Was interested in the game and was planning to get VR with next year's tax return so I'll wait until then or later to buy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnizelPS Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Oh boy, lucky me my brother bought into this whole VR thing and got PSVR. Gonna be a pain in the ass dragging it over here. I'll still get the game, the thing is... I heard that there are like 3 glitched trophies. That's a big no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upendo_Vitani Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, yowzagabowza said: $600? Where? In Australia? PSVR is nowhere NEAR $600. Canada. It was $550 CAD when it launched (when I had any interest in it) Add tax. Don't care that the price has dropped. It does not detract from my point Edited October 7, 2019 by Upendo_Vitani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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