Why are so many people complaining about easy platinum games

[Speling_Expirt]

It's just sad to see the 'new releases' get flooded with crap and is a huge slap in the face of the trophy system.

[PhyrxianLibrarin]

Lol, this guy will stop flooding the PSN store with his shovelware as soon as you all stop buying it. You know who you are.

[FATALITY5150]

meh

[Mori]

How about we all start to develop shovelware and see what happens? Sounds better to me than just complaining about it everyday.

[CB7Tuner91]

Its pathetic Sony hasn't done anything about it. Ive stopped looking at the PS store to buy new games because I'm not digging through the mounds of these games to find the real ones. 

[HusKy]

This will never stop until Sony steps in and revokes publishing licenses for these "developers". I'm not sure if they don't know or don't care but it certainly paints a picture about their quality control. Also, some (or perhaps most) of these games are released only on PlayStation which gives a good idea just how profitable creating programs for unlocking trophies is.

[You]

The guys at the top need to form a pact, or something.

 

None of them increase or decrease their lead with each subsequent new game that comes out, all that happens, is that they need to keep up with the new releases and cancel each other out, and just hope the other guys give up and stop buying them. Of course each time you don't buy one of these games and your rivals do, that's nullifies a platinum list, of an actual game in your past that you probably particularly enjoyed. 1 dollar insurance premiums.

 

Ultimately as time goes on, pay to win is going to be key, these days you need to fork out about 10-20 dollars a week. The richest person is going to rise to the top.

 

Which is sadly ironic in a way, because there will never actually be a winner. You're only ever forever, qualifying in "Pole Position"...

[Smashero]

2 hours ago, trampgav said:

polish to get drunk

Wait! WHAT?!?! ?

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Just had to

[Jelly Soup]

43 minutes ago, Mori said:

How about we all start to develop shovelware and see what happens? Sounds better to me than just complaining about it everyday.

 

It's admittedly tempting. I'm working on a couple projects and the easiest way to finish would be to just toss some crap together with easy achievements, then publish at a $5 price tag. Slight advantages in sell in a numbers competition. I can't fault Ratalaika or the people who publish under them, the hustle obviously works and it's a quick way for a starting studio to generate funds.

[Ozetkiller]

Imagine someone new buying the playstation to play god of war and instead of seeing kratos face all they see is mark from breakthrough games. I have nothing against indie game, nothing against easy games but THIS is literal spam in the ps store every day. Sony allows this to happen and no big media is reporting about this issue.

For me it also destroyed the fun of trophy hunting but yeah whatever. Ill just ignore it i guess

[DavySuicide]

6 hours ago, enaysoft said:

 

Actually you're wrong, the PS Store is fine. It's THIS site that is a mess as a result. None of these games ever appear on the store unless you search for them directly.

 

This site however I used to use a lot in the past to see what games were coming out because the lists appeared just before the games were about to be released.

Now it's feels like a google search with 95% spam ads in it.

i 100% back this, I know that these threads aren't "allowed" by the mods but the majority of the forum users here have a clear point against these shitty games and their army of useless stacks, I mean shouldn't it be possible to at least avoid posting a game 8 times with all stacks in the new trophy list section by maybe summarize them in one post? 

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by DavySuicide

[Baker]

2 hours ago, Jelly Soup said:

and then Spaz/AJ bursts in like the kool-aid man to wank about the 80s/early 90s. 

This made my day. Thanks. ?

[Nebnit]

1 hour ago, enaysoft said:

The guys at the top need to form a pact, or something.

 

None of them increase or decrease their lead with each subsequent new game that comes out, all that happens, is that they need to keep up with the new releases and cancel each other out, and just hope the other guys give up and stop buying them. Of course each time you don't buy one of these games and your rivals do, that's nullifies a platinum list, of an actual game in your past that you probably particularly enjoyed. 1 dollar insurance premiums.

 

Ultimately as time goes on, pay to win is going to be key, these days you need to fork out about 10-20 dollars a week. The richest person is going to rise to the top.

 

Which is sadly ironic in a way, because there will never actually be a winner. You're only ever forever, qualifying in "Pole Position"...

 

There's no way they won't get tired of this eventually. It sounds so unrealistic that two years from now people will still be stacking six versions of bouncing burgers or whatever.

[DeepEyes7]

It's fun when people have been exploiting this crap to boost numbers but when they got tired and can't keep up then this needs to stahp!

 

7 minutes ago, Nebnit said:

 

There's no way they won't get tired of this eventually. It sounds so unrealistic that two years from now people will still be stacking six versions of bouncing burgers or whatever.

 

On 2020 people was saying the same about Ratalaika games, and we are here two years later with even worse games.... But really after the jumping games I don't know how this can get worse....

Edited July 31, 2022 by DeepEyes7

[Nauticus87]

21 minutes ago, DeepEyes7 said:

I don't know how this can get worse....

You pay for the game.You open it and your platinum pops at the main menu.

 

The entire game is a gacha machine. Each spin costs spin gems. If you win big you get an unlock code for another stack of the game that isn't available for purchase in any other way.

 

The odds are low to win, but you can purchase luck gems to increase your chances. Luck gems can be earned in the machine you already got the platinum for by using spin gems or you can pay a small fee of real money to get luck gems instantly to play the machine to unlock those legendary, non-purchasable stacks of extra platinums.

 

Spin gems, of which you have a limited amount, replenish each day, or you can purchase additional spin gems for a small fee of real money.

[Play3GianniGreed]

Flash news: platinum don't exist in reality and they are useless. 

Getting a platinum in a super hard game doesn't make you a better person than those who play this game. People who play this game don't have to be ashamed of anything, it's their money, and they can do what they want with it. 

Play what you want and let others play what they want, instead of crying like babies. 

 

And yes, before someone check my trophies to get back at me, I have played some of this and I have no problem with that. 

[The Alchemist]

8 hours ago, Ozetkiller said:

Sony needs to stop this. The ps store is a mess you cant even see normal games anymore inbetween them.

Atleast add a filter to blend this spam out..

 

Every time this topic pops up someone has this exact thought, and it's stupid. None of the major platform holders enforce any kind of quality control. Further, to us these games might be scraping the bottom of the barrel and barely qualify as games to begin with, but to Sony these are just indie games and developers. Why on earth would they move to block them? Sony won't ever do something like that, and they're right. As bad as the games are, they aren't stopping other games from being released, or noticed. At the end of the day they cause no harm. Sony especially aren't going to do it because there has already been a false narrative since the PS5 launched that PlayStation doesn't care about indies. How do you think it would look if Sony prevented certain developers from releasing games on their platform? Not good to say the least. The internet would have a meltdown. 

 

And you really don't need a special filter for these games. I use the PS Store quite frequently and I only occasionally run into one of these games somewhere on the store, otherwise you'd need to be looking specifically for them to find them. The PS Store is very curated in what they put front and centre. This website on the other hand could do something about filtering out these games because they clog the front page all the time. 

 

Lastly, if you bought into this type of trash then you need to take some responsibility, because like it or not, you're part of the problem. I'm not saying I disagree with your sentiment, but saying you want it to stop now just because you've reached your 1000 plats and had your fun comes off as entitled. Why shouldn't other people have the same opportunity as you did? Why did it take you reaching 1000 plats before realizing the issue at hand? 

[AJ_Radio]

3 hours ago, Jelly Soup said:

 

It's not taboo, it's just goddamn old at this point. Always the same names making the same points, each time with more words than the last, some people come in with some variation of 'let people play what they want', the same names from before agree for the umpteenth time that there's nothing to be done and then Spaz/AJ bursts in like the kool-aid man to wank about the 80s/early 90s. The sound and fury blends together eventually into a tidal wave of who-the-hell-cares.

 

Says the dude who is playing Ms Pac Man on his trophy account. Get a fucking grip guy. We all have our things we like and don't like. So I'm what, Grandpa Simpson in your eyes? I can't appreciate anything in the present day?

 

There's tons of stuff I appreciate and love in the present day. Just because I prefer a few things from the past, doesn't mean I'm some kool-aid man that is automatically a gatekeeper, elitist and authoritarian on the have and have nots.

 

Just admit you don't like me. Problem solved. Just mute me or ignore me or whatever the hell you want, and go about your day.

[Nauticus87]

5 minutes ago, The Alchemist said:

 

At the end of the day they cause no harm.

This, along with if you don't like it just ignore it are the most dangerous statements around, because they are factually incorrect.

 

Why do you think so many of these exist now? It's because companies have seen how they can profit from addiction.

 

I'll share a somewhat famous example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7dfoqg/an_open_letter_to_dice_ea_and_other_devs_i_am_19/

 

There are two telling statements in that opening paragraph: "I just wish someone had told me of the dangers" and "please help microtransactions to be known as a far more dangerous purchase".

 

These games are a form of microtransaction, a quick hook to keep people addicted to trophies/leaderboards/status. Some might not be harmed by it, you might not be harmed by it, but you can guarantee there are people out there who are detrimentally affected by this. Those are the people we should be speaking up for. It's why I applaud anyone who speaks up for this, even in the face of the backlash received. Keep speaking up.

[AllieWalton66]

At this point I only use them if I want a particular trophy as a milestone and need to quickly close a number gap. I'm going to make Edith Fitch PS5 my next milestone but I'll need 4 quick ones to get there.

 

Tis a necessary evil I'm afraid.

[SlimSanta94]

I find that when people complain about these easy games they make it seem like a bigger issue than it actually is. Sure the business practice is quite scummy and predatory but at the end of the day nobody is forcing you to purchase or even acknowledge them and in the grand scheme of things they make up a very small percentage of the actual PS store. I myself came across someone else complaining about all the jumping food games recently, I went onto the store just to see if any would appear and without going out of my way to actually find them sure enough none of them appeared. Call me naive but what ever happened to just letting people play what they want?

[The Alchemist]

6 minutes ago, Nauticus87 said:

This, along with if you don't like it just ignore it are the most dangerous statements around, because they are factually incorrect.

 

Wrong. You're assuming these games exist because of addiction when there is really no evidence to support that. MTXs are a different discussion entirely and can't be used here to back up any such claims. Not the first time I've seen the addiction card played as a reason to get rid of these games. 

 

Maybe some people are addicted to trophies and chasing numbers on a leaderboard, hence why they are drawn to such games, but you can't claim that as the sole reason for why these games exist and why people play them. 

 

Also, even if true, I don't really care. At what point does personal responsibility play a role in these things, or should we just mollycoddle everyone from everything all the time? 

[AJ_Radio]

8 hours ago, Ashande said:

The issue is, when people say “Sony needs to stop this” or something similar, you’re requesting gatekeeping. Personally, I’m not necessarily against it, but the problem then becomes who gets to be the gatekeeper? What standards will they use? What qualifies as a “real” game?

 

That’s before you factor in the issue of potential bad faith actors who decide their “game” wasn’t rejected for not meeting whatever those hypothetical criteria might be, but as some form of personal attack against them or their art. A short hop, skip, and jump to Reddit forums or Twitter, and suddenly Sony is the Evil Istaphobic Demon, preventing this innocent young developer from selling their totally awesome game. (Or, worse but unlikely, someone’s game actually is rejected for reasons outside of the game itself.)

 

Best idea is just to ignore it. They’re not hurting you. They’re just sitting there. They’re not preventing any “real” games from releasing, they’re not taking time and resources away from whatever you consider to be a more meaningful experience. They’re just there. ??‍♂️

 

The same bullshit is in all other forms of media. Movies. Television. Comic Books. Etc Etc

 

Soulja Boy can release his 12th Rap Album that is a regurgitation of his hit song "Crank That". Has horrible reviews across the board. Nope, can't criticize that, because when you criticize any product you're going to get hate from people who won't let something go.

 

Not too long ago I got serious criticism and flak for bashing Amazon's Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power television series. The show isn't even out yet, but I compared it with The Hobbit films, which I found mostly unremarkable and dull. Those involved in the work of the upcoming Lord of the Rings television series were taking the criticisms as more or less threats.

 

I don't think it's just one side. The problem is both sides. Both sides are sensationalized largely thanks to the internet because every Tom Dick and Harry can just sensationalize something. Seth Rogan is upset from harsh criticism regarding Santa Inc, so he takes upon social media to sensationalize himself and put himself into deeper water.

 

That's the issue. And there is a serious lack of quality control at Sony. I'm not saying I think there's a lack of quality control, no there is a serious lack of quality control. Otherwise all these low quality games wouldn't be coming in thru the store. And it's certainly tiring. Because while I've given up any hope on the leaderboards here on PSNP, I'm still annoyed by the list of new games, 90 percent of which are five minute platinums with their corresponding five to six stacks.

 

Sony is clearly having issues with getting good indie games to come to their consoles. Meanwhile Microsoft and Steam are getting good indie titles, many of which I would love to have on Sony but unfortunately we don't have them. If we do get them, it's usually either several months or an entire year after the indie games were released on other platforms.

 

Obviously these young developers in the business are getting hit upon. But since when was it ever easy to get started in the entertainment industry? It never was.

 

But this mentality of defending the worst of the worst when it comes to games, that has to stop. If these people commenting on this thread are so hot and bothered by what people like me are saying regarding these games, then maybe just stop posting on the matter and go about your business?

 

You all came in here voluntarily, nobody forced you to comment about this in the first place.

Edited July 31, 2022 by AJ_Radio
Add a filter option for games that aren't overly easy

[Nauticus87]

4 minutes ago, The Alchemist said:

 

Wrong. You're assuming these games exist because of addiction ... Maybe some people are addicted to trophies and chasing numbers on a leaderboard, hence why they are drawn to such games, but you can't claim that as the sole reason for why these games exist and why people play them. 

First of all which is it, can they or can't they be tied to addiction? Also, where did I say this was the sole reason the games existed? I said it was one reason why the amount of games increased. Are you telling me you believe these games are more prevalent because they are enjoyed? I'd ask for your view but you go on to say you don't care so I'll skip that.

 

You only have to look through this and the multitude of other threads, the profiles stacking them out of necessity, and the numerous articles about addiction in gaming and gambling to see the link.

 

4 minutes ago, The Alchemist said:

Also, even if true, I don't really care. At what point does personal responsibility play a role in these things, or should we just mollycoddle everyone from everything all the time? 

If you don't care why post?

 

Look, I'm not trying to stop anyone from playing these games if they choose to. If you read that article I linked the person acknowledges it's their own fault, they need to get help for their addiction, I'm saying - and agreeing - that it's important to speak up on the dangers of these practices. If you don't want to, you don't have to, that's fair, your choice, nobody says you have to, but those who speak up shouldn't be attacked for trying to spread awareness or wanting to look out for people. Because it's our choice too.

[sk_lp_him]

1 hour ago, The Alchemist said:

And you really don't need a special filter for these games. I use the PS Store quite frequently and I only occasionally run into one of these games somewhere on the store, otherwise you'd need to be looking specifically for them to find them. The PS Store is very curated in what they put front and centre. This website on the other hand could do something about filtering out these games because they clog the front page all the time.

 

Totally not true. This is the first page from the newest/latest games on the store.