Popular Post Weuslund Posted February 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 I love a trophy list like this. Just enjoy the game and the rest will come. I really hate that trophies make me to play the game in a certain way. Especially missable trophies is a real pain when you need to watch out for this. A missable trophy where I need to scan 2 machines during the last mission is where i can live with very easily. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealightbreeze Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Sounds good to me. Happy to not see the hard mode and new game+ trophies again. At least not yet. Edited February 17, 2022 by sealightbreeze 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BENJAM1N_LINUS Posted February 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 Pretty much a perfect list. You essentially have to do everything, but you are spared the boredom of cleaning up every single collectible. No difficulty trophies so you can enjoy the game however you see fit and only one missable that is really only missable as a technicality and not something you have to worry about the entire time you're playing the game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostGameBlues Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) And here I am just starting my NG+ Ultra Hard on HZD lol. From the reviews I read, Forbidden West doesn't seem significantly different. My copy arrives later today but I'm in no rush to play it, especially with Elden Ring creeping up in the corner lol. I will say that I wish the trophy list was more creative. I'm getting kinda bored with the checklist type trophy lists that Sony keeps pushing out with its first party games. I'm 99% sure though that they'll add another Ultra Hard NG+ trophy as dlc later on. But yeah, even HZD's trophy list is pretty boring, just wish they spiced things up this time around. Edited February 17, 2022 by PostGameBlues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDK Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) On 14/2/2022 at 0:10 PM, Stardroid said: Like always the thread will get hijacked by strawmen strawmanning with their strawman arguments. Nobody in here is claiming easy lists are the end of the world. What is being said is that by far the most dominating type of list in the AAA sphere and also indie are increasingly easy. Why are some of you shaming people who just want harder trophies from time to time. The fact that some of you are oblivious to the fact that you mock a certain type of trophy hunter while simultaneously preaching inclusiveness for all gamers ... How does this hypocrisy escape you people. I'm so tired of almost always having to justify myself why I think I want a challenging trophy list from time to time! It's almost like I experience a hobby differently from you! You have your easy lists, you guys have plenty of them! I don't! I have to look into the obscure corners of the gaming world for a challenging list or I have to add my own challenges! Like speedrunning Bound and Shadow of the Colossus. Some of you guys really need to unplug the head from your butts and stop being hypocrites. You are in no position to tell anyone how to experience trophy hunting, and you shouldn't strawman what is being said in order to pretend there is some elitist plot going on here by some hardcore gamers who just don't want the average joe to get tuh trophiez! I swear some of you think you're smarter than you really are. It's whatever to me now though, this discussion has been done to death and it's always the same anyway. I don't think I've ever met anyone in the UR hunting community either who is like "these damn casuals, brooo, hate them". Nobody cares. All some of us want are challenging and more creative lists. Enjoy your argument though, I ain't having any of it anymore. I love this post because it's so true. Calling people elitists just because we want a challenging trophy here and there, is the opposite of inclusive. It's not like there aren't any easy plats out there, it's all the same easy boring lists, and I'm afraid everything on PS5 will be even more easy, safe and common, even the indies unfortunately. I don't expect AAA to be super challenging, but the decision to remove the difficulty trophies from the base list in Sony exclusives is a shame imo. Edited February 17, 2022 by CabDK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarnettbraun Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Horizon: Forbidden West's trophies are expected. The trophies don't need to be difficult. They don't need to be anything but what they already are. There are other games that can be played which are more difficult. People who want to experience a challenge in every game can defer to them instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecman_25 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) On 2/13/2022 at 11:37 PM, arcanehornet_ said: Does everything have to be a Wolfenstein 2 type platinum for people to be able to have fun? Geez Trophy Hunters are entitled asf. I love seeing them cry like little girls when a trophy list is too easy for them Edited February 17, 2022 by thecman_25 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDK Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, notandrebraun said: Horizon: Forbidden West's trophies are expected. The trophies don't need to be difficult. They don't need to be anything but what they already are. There are other games that can be played which are more difficult. People who want to experience a challenge in every game can defer to them instead. That's not the point, people are allowed to have an opinion about difficulty or whatever without having to be called out as an non-inclusive elitist. Edited February 17, 2022 by CabDK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarnettbraun Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, CabDK said: That's not the point, people are allowed to have an opinion about difficulty or whatever without having to be called out as an non inclusive elitist. I never said that people weren't allowed to be opinionated. However, there were other replies in the topic (that have since been removed) where members replied with insults more than just being a "non-inclusive elitist". Not to mention the ironic hypocrisy in calling others hypocrites while being hypocritical themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRejectz Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 2022-02-13 at 11:57 PM, Akrioz said: Looking forward to GoW Ragnarok trophy list. Because Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart seems to have started trend of veeeeeery easy platinums. Meh, I'd say it started all the way back in 2018 with Detroit: Become Human/God of War (4) Detroit: Become Human God of War Marvel's Spider-Man Concrete Genie Days Gone Ghost of Tsushima The Last of Us Part II Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sendai-Horatio Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The game banner looks the same as the original. Not only that stuff like All Tallnecks Overidden have the same icon just with a slightly different texture. Forbidden West Zero Dawn I wonder if forbidden west will come with trophy rewards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offdutysuperhero Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, thecman_25 said: Trophy Hunters are entitled asf. I love seeing them cry like little girls when a trophy list is too easy for them this goes the other way too, people always complain trophy lists are too hard. and people avoid the game. if you cant get the hardest difficulty trophy, just dont get that trophy? the hypocrisy is too much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, OmegaRejectz said: Meh, I'd say it started all the way back in 2018 with Detroit: Become Human/God of War (4) Detroit: Become Human God of War Marvel's Spider-Man Concrete Genie Days Gone Ghost of Tsushima The Last of Us Part II Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart I see what you're saying, but I don't consider God of War to be part of this list. If for only having to kill the Queen Valkyrie alone...it doesn't belong with these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirehunter145 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 It seems like an easy list. I even argue that easier than the first one's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arcesius Posted February 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, notandrebraun said: Horizon: Forbidden West's trophies are expected. The trophies don't need to be difficult. They don't need to be anything but what they already are. There are other games that can be played which are more difficult. People who want to experience a challenge in every game can defer to them instead. Just out of curiosity, can you name me any games that came out 2019 or later that have truly challenging trophy lists? I'm talking really challenging, 9-10/10. I can think of two games from the top of my head. It's everyone's right to be happy about the trophy list as is. It's also everyone's right to be disappointed that you only need to complete 50% of the game to get the plat and express that opinion. It's worrysome that Sony is imposing restrictions on what types of trophies are allowed in their titles, and to think where it will go from here. Edited February 17, 2022 by Arcesius 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesopithecus Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I've been looking forward to Horizon Forbidden West for quite some time, the trophy list seems about standard and consistent with the first game list. I think regardless of trophies, I'll try and do 100% of everything in the game, as I get a joy from the exploration aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offdutysuperhero Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 when people say they want challenging trophy lists, atleast for me im not saying i want 10/10 crypt of the necrodancer, supermeat boy list. but atleast a 6-7 out of 10. not a 2/10 walking simulator style list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willythom88 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 This list is fine. Honestly, my favorite thing about it is it reduces the hunting trial things from the first game. I skipped those and didn't get the plat before, just cause I thought they were wildly out of place. Having timed trials in a game that heavily emphasizes stealth seemed weird to me. Or should I say, where I played much more stealth-fully then I might have played something similar. I am a little disappointed you don't have to do a bit more, but I guess that just means I'll have to do those things outside of the trophy list in preparation of the inevitable DLC drops....or f-ck it, just cause I like the game (here's hoping). I will say it matches pretty close to the Sony first party developer lists over the past few years. I think they are harping on the trophy crowd and trying to suck um in with more accessible trophies. I'm not against that, just think it's strange. Anyhow, everyone have fun tomorrow. I gotta go pick my copy up on lunch and then finish work before I can throw it in, but my wife has been informed, that this is the bulk of my weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarnettbraun Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Arcesius said: Just out of curiosity, can you name me any games that came out 2019 or later that have truly challenging trophy lists? I'm talking really challenging, 9-10/10. I can think of two games from the top of my head. It's everyone's right to be happy about the trophy list as is. It's also everyone's right to be disappointed that you only need to complete 50% of the game to get the plat and express that opinion. It's worrysome that Sony is imposing restrictions on what types of trophies are allowed in their titles, and to think where it will go from here. No, but I don't know every game that has been released since 2019 (nor did I suggest that they needed to have been released within the last three years) and difficulty is subjective due to the basis being the skills of a person which varies for everybody. However, the difficulty of games are irrelevant to my argument being made. I never once said that people weren't allowed to be opinionated. To reiterate what @DrBloodmoney said, "they still have the option to play a game on a higher difficulty, regardless of the baseline requirements of the platinum." In other words, our experiences in a game are only limited by us and not the details of any trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD_91 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I would rather Sony still included difficulty based trophies in the main trophy list but I don't really care too much either way, I do find the whole "why do you care about the trophies you can still play the game the way you want" to be pretty stupid as that can be applied to both the too easy and too hard side of the argument 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offdutysuperhero Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, MD_91 said: I would rather Sony still included difficulty based trophies in the main trophy list but I don't really care too much either way, I do find the whole "why do you care about the trophies you can still play the game the way you want" to be pretty stupid as that can be applied to both the too easy and too hard side of the argument This is exactly my point, bigotry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve-258 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 My only disappointment is that the title card is the same bright blue that Zero Dawn's was. It felt out of place for the first game. And even if it hadn't I'd prefer if the sequel had a little variety. You can't tell them apart at a glance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godo Fwar Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 At least it won't be as short as Rift Apart was. I would've been more disappointed with that, not that it was ever going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AJ_Radio Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 hours ago, notandrebraun said: No, but I don't know every game that has been released since 2019 (nor did I suggest that they needed to have been released within the last three years) and difficulty is subjective due to the basis being the skills of a person which varies for everybody. However, the difficulty of games are irrelevant to my argument being made. I never once said that people weren't allowed to be opinionated. To reiterate what @DrBloodmoney said, "they still have the option to play a game on a higher difficulty, regardless of the baseline requirements of the platinum." In other words, our experiences in a game are only limited by us and not the details of any trophies. There’s only one or two games you’ve done on your entire trophy account that I would consider impressive or daunting, out of over 100 games played. Nobody here suggested Wolfenstein 2 or Super Meat Boy levels of difficulty, since everybody on the forums these days automatically stereotypes these two games as having a challenge. I’ve grown bored of these formulaic AAA games, regardless of how impressive the graphics look. I don’t know what happened exactly, but I noticed trophy lists started to change around 2016, when Sony moved to California. In the early PS4 era many AAA titles were given challenging lists. Trophy hunting was never really meant to cater to the average gamer. You had to go above and beyond to earn a lot of platinums. Now they’re being handed out as participation awards, and looking at the indie scene they’re even worse. We’re so used to just being handed stuff on a silver platter and this goes beyond trophy hunting or even gaming. It’s the times we live in now. People who do go after challenges were always the minority. But it’s sort of irksome that AAA games are starting to become “Point A to Point B” type of experiences. Casting out trophies, these games are significantly easier than AAA games were even 10 - 15 years ago. On Normal difficulty, just getting thru the story was somewhat of a challenge for a lot of people. Now they’re just a lot easier, where you can get your 10 year old son to play thru the storyline without much trouble. This is why I still hope Elden Ring will remain a fulfilling and satisfying challenge when it releases. Japanese developers, not including indie games, seem to be the only ones left who are still putting challenge in their titles when you play on Normal difficulty. Nowadays most western made AAA games are piss easy on Normal. Hard difficulty is now the new Normal difficulty, and so on. There’s all that other stuff I don’t like about modern gaming, but that’s another subject for another time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quink666 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Trophy list looks good. You can enjoy the game at your own pace while only having to worry about a single missable trophy. Not like South Park - Stick of Truth where most trophies are missable. Will definitely pick this up the very first sale since i enjoyed the last game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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