The WWE Discussion Thread

[jackmadrox]

The build to this year's Royal Rumble has been fantastic. I just don't know who I'm rooting for anymore. Maybe Drew Mcintyre. He's kind of got this nothing to lose angle going and I find that interesting. But honestly, I'm betting on The Rock or CM Punk to win the rumble. I just worry if they go with The Rock to win, because the crowd might react the same way they did when Batista won instead of Daniel Bryan years ago.

[Don_Chipotle]

39 minutes ago, jackmadrox said:

The build to this year's Royal Rumble has been fantastic. I just don't know who I'm rooting for anymore. Maybe Drew Mcintyre. He's kind of got this nothing to lose angle going and I find that interesting. But honestly, I'm betting on The Rock or CM Punk to win the rumble. I just worry if they go with The Rock to win, because the crowd might react the same way they did when Batista won instead of Daniel Bryan years ago.

 

There are many dream matches tha could happen, it will be the interesting how wwe pulls the road to wrestlemania, some want Cody to win, but maybe something will happen at the rumble

[Infected Elite]

38 minutes ago, Don_Chipotle said:

 

There are many dream matches tha could happen, it will be the interesting how wwe pulls the road to wrestlemania, some want Cody to win, but maybe something will happen at the rumble

 

Cody SHOULD win.

nobody wants Rock vs Roman that much. Plus it could use a 1yr build tbh. Non Title.

 

EDIT: I could see Roman run in and toss Cody out similar to Lesnar/Goldberg 2004. 

Edited January 26 by Infected Elite

[Don_Chipotle]

1 hour ago, Infected Elite said:

 

Cody SHOULD win.

nobody wants Rock vs Roman that much. Plus it could use a 1yr build tbh. Non Title.

 

EDIT: I could see Roman run in and toss Cody out similar to Lesnar/Goldberg 2004. 

A choice many say that i could agree is that they do at elimination chamber rock vs roman, and then go full beast at WM with roman vs rock vs cody, interesting part is how would they book it, also, i bet that if roman beats rock and cody, the push would be brutal as a heel, even more than the first time cody lost. Maybe newcomers to the heavy titles like Gunther to keep everyone hyped

 

 

[Infected Elite]

40 minutes ago, Don_Chipotle said:

A choice many say that i could agree is that they do at elimination chamber rock vs roman, and then go full beast at WM with roman vs rock vs cody, interesting part is how would they book it, also, i bet that if roman beats rock and cody, the push would be brutal as a heel, even more than the first time cody lost. Maybe newcomers to the heavy titles like Gunther to keep everyone hyped

 

 

Roman is overrated and shit. 

[Rozalia1]

Roman beating Cody the first time was questionable, but I think most now see it as having been the correct move as they were able to keep Cody hot. Doing it a second time? I don't see how they can manage that. Cody simply must win. If that means he wins the rumble or not we'll see, but he has to be the one to overcome Roman. HHH being in charge makes me think he wouldn't screw Cody over by replacing him with the Rock. Doesn't make much sense for anyone involved. While Roman is perhaps the best possible opponent for someone in the state that the Rock is going to be in, Rock has to know that people will not look kindly at him stealing Cody's match.

 

The expected course is the correct one. Cody beats Roman. Other big faces that Roman has screwed over can be who come out to run off the Bloodline. As that is more faces than heels then they could always add some 'Heyman guys' to the group to increase the heel numbers. As for the Rock himself. I think the best possible way to use him would be with Punk, which wouldn't even require them to then have a match. Punk can then use it in a future Cody feud, where he sees himself as the only reason Cody is champion as he'd never have gotten the match to begin with if Punk hadn't taken out that no good Rock who was clearly going to screw Cody, like how he screwed Punk himself in the past.

 

Gunther is going to be interesting. I never saw the Gable thing as some show that he was going to get a Mania match with Gunther. It just came off like a program to tell people to stop seeing Gable as the joke he has been promoted as. Jey is someone we've heard for a while, but nothing has really pointed that way. Seth would certainly be interesting if Gunther unifies the new world title with the IC title.

[Infected Elite]

29 minutes ago, Rozalia1 said:

Roman beating Cody the first time was questionable, but I think most now see it as having been the correct move as they were able to keep Cody hot. Doing it a second time? I don't see how they can manage that. Cody simply must win. If that means he wins the rumble or not we'll see, but he has to be the one to overcome Roman. HHH being in charge makes me think he wouldn't screw Cody over by replacing him with the Rock. Doesn't make much sense for anyone involved. While Roman is perhaps the best possible opponent for someone in the state that the Rock is going to be in, Rock has to know that people will not look kindly at him stealing Cody's match.

 

Glad you agree. I thought you were all for Roman v Rock. I have no major issue with it... except short build and for the titles. Like i said, build it for a year to Mania 41, have Rock enforce no bloodline interfere in Cody v Roman 2. Roman gets mad and feels Rock cost him the belt. Then Roman attacks Rock at TKO HQ or on a movie set. Makes it a different build than just attacking him on Raw etc.

 

Cody vs Roman 2 and Roman reign ending at Mania has to happen.

 

Mania X: Yokos title reign ending, Bret got his revenge i guess

 

Mania XX: [Redacted] defeats HHH/HBK and finally ends HHH "reign of terror"

 

Mania XXX: Bryan Danielson overcomes HHH, then beats Orton/Batista and ends Ortons constant title reigns of that season (season being Mania to Mania)

 

Mania 40 SHOULD be Cody defeating Roman for the belt. 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, Rozalia1 said:

 

The expected course is the correct one. Cody beats Roman. Other big faces that Roman has screwed over can be who come out to run off the Bloodline. As that is more faces than heels then they could always add some 'Heyman guys' to the group to increase the heel numbers. As for the Rock himself. I think the best possible way to use him would be with Punk, which wouldn't even require them to then have a match. Punk can then use it in a future Cody feud, where he sees himself as the only reason Cody is champion as he'd never have gotten the match to begin with if Punk hadn't taken out that no good Rock who was clearly going to screw Cody, like how he screwed Punk himself in the past.

 

Gunther is going to be interesting. I never saw the Gable thing as some show that he was going to get a Mania match with Gunther. It just came off like a program to tell people to stop seeing Gable as the joke he has been promoted as. Jey is someone we've heard for a while, but nothing has really pointed that way. Seth would certainly be interesting if Gunther unifies the new world title with the IC title.

 

Gunther i see losing the IC belt to Jey Uso... at some point. I dont see a title unification since the IC title has tons of prestige now (thank you HHH and Gunther). 

 

I hope at a future Mania, maybe 41? we get some bangers like Gargano vs Ciampa. Gunther vs Dragunov or Pete Dunne (thank god Butch is gone), Cody vs Orton, or Punk maybe (if Punk lasts... Hopefully hes gone by summer), Roman vs Rock.

 

 

[Rozalia1]

10 minutes ago, Infected Elite said:

Glad you agree. I thought you were all for Roman v Rock. I have no major issue with it... except short build and for the titles. Like i said, build it for a year to Mania 41, have Rock enforce no bloodline interfere in Cody v Roman 2. Roman gets mad and feels Rock cost him the belt. Then Roman attacks Rock at TKO HQ or on a movie set. Makes it a different build than just attacking him on Raw etc.

 

Cody vs Roman 2 and Roman reign ending at Mania has to happen.

 

Mania X: Yokos title reign ending, Bret got his revenge i guess

 

Mania XX: [Redacted] defeats HHH/HBK and finally ends HHH "reign of terror"

 

Mania XXX: Bryan Danielson overcomes HHH, then beats Orton/Batista and ends Ortons constant title reigns of that season (season being Mania to Mania)

 

Mania 40 SHOULD be Cody defeating Roman for the belt. 

 

Gunther i see losing the IC belt to Jey Uso... at some point. I dont see a title unification since the IC title has tons of prestige now (thank you HHH and Gunther). 

 

I hope at a future Mania, maybe 41? we get some bangers like Gargano vs Ciampa. Gunther vs Dragunov or Pete Dunne (thank god Butch is gone), Cody vs Orton, or Punk maybe (if Punk lasts... Hopefully hes gone by summer), Roman vs Rock.

 

A guy coming in like Rock to give someone a big match is not something I have too much of an issue with, but not when it is 'stealing' a match from someone. Cody vs Roman clearly has been the plan for a whole year. To throw all of that away because the Rock decided he was available that day would be such a waste. Even if it were a bigger match, the Rock ain't going to be on the shows going forward like Cody is.

 

Oh I don't mean unifying the IC title into the World title, I meant Gunther unifying the World title into his IC title. If they want two world titles then they can always split up Roman's titles, which can be done in numerous ways. Such a thing would be to everyone's benefit; Roman keeps the Universal title so his massive run continues, Cody gets the WWE title which is the one he wants, and the IC title gets a World title unified into it which will further increase the prestige of the IC title (Gunther also is undoubtably a main eventer at that point).

[Infected Elite]

30 minutes ago, Rozalia1 said:

 

A guy coming in like Rock to give someone a big match is not something I have too much of an issue with, but not when it is 'stealing' a match from someone. Cody vs Roman clearly has been the plan for a whole year. To throw all of that away because the Rock decided he was available that day would be such a waste. Even if it were a bigger match, the Rock ain't going to be on the shows going forward like Cody is.

Hence why I'd have an issue this year with Rock vs Roman at Mania. All this build since Mania 39 to 40 has been Rhodes vs Roman 2. With Cody finally winning. I dont think fans would want to wait past 40 for Roman to lose. I could see some backlash happening tbh. Cody still is getting some of the loudest constant reactions around. Another reason i think we do get Cody Roman 2 somehow is WWE YouTube has uploaded various Cody/Roman segments in recent weeks. Including a second upload of the Mania 39 match. Thats right, they uploaded it twice in full. But, this here, is my biggest hype. They barely said anything and the stare down alone sent shivers. It could sell huge. It IS the direction they should go. Whats more is HHH has played dirt sheets numerous times to try to throw people off. From Rock winning rumble to recent reports of Gunther winning, or Punk vs Rhodes. All supposedly fake (yay!), but here is the moment i reference. 

 

 

and i thought the other day, every "generation" and wwe era had there big 2 + occasionally rivals, Hogan/Macho, HBK/Bret, Austin/Rock (sometimes HHH), Brock/Angle, Cena/Batista, then it kind of just stayed at Roman with no real second. You could argue Seth i suppose but now it definitely seems like Cody and Roman even though they've only gone 1 on 1 once.

 

30 minutes ago, Rozalia1 said:

 

Oh I don't mean unifying the IC title into the World title, I meant Gunther unifying the World title into his IC title. If they want two world titles then they can always split up Roman's titles, which can be done in numerous ways. Such a thing would be to everyone's benefit; Roman keeps the Universal title so his massive run continues, Cody gets the WWE title which is the one he wants, and the IC title gets a World title unified into it which will further increase the prestige of the IC title (Gunther also is undoubtably a main eventer at that point).

Roman only has the one title now really. But i could see Gunther defending both IC and World title being a double champ. Wouldn't be any different than Rollins with WWE/US (even if he lost US a month later lol)

 

 

I will say, even though i hate Roman with a passion, the match vs Cody is one of the best in Mania history. With one of the better promo packages in recent years. Had Cody won i think people would put it top 5 of all time,

 

 

 

Edited January 26 by Infected Elite

[Infected Elite]

Vince has resigned from TKO and WWE amid sexual allegations and sex trafficking.

 

Good riddance you sack of shit. 

[MidnightDragon]

32 minutes ago, Infected Elite said:

Vince has resigned from TKO and WWE amid sexual allegations and sex trafficking.

 

Good riddance you sack of shit. 

Shit thing is he'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist since rich fucks like that get away with everything.

[Infected Elite]

2 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said:

Shit thing is he'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist since rich fucks like that get away with everything.

eh hes 78. Nothin against old people but he probably doesnt have much longer. Same with Trump..Yes i like the fact wrestling is popular and sure Vince had a huge part in it obviously but i am sick and tired of rich dudes thinking they own people. Take advantage of them and more. Sure, one woman spoke up now. But hes been around for over 40 years... who knows all the victims who haven't spoken up.... 

 

Supposedly Lesnar is involved somehow too, potentially being like muscle or something. Dude is married with kids and never really around so hopefully his involvement is false but yeah,

 

Vince McMahon deserves to suffer big time for this and lose everything. 

[Rozalia1]

Vince is finally completely gone. The company will likely carry out the clause that allows them to force Vince to sell his stock. Ironically his move to get back in power is what takes him down here as he is no longer the boss and people who might be pressured to protect him, no longer have any such pressure. Serves him right. Disgraceful how he took the company away from Shane/Stephanie as he did. His father, who as far as I know did not like his son, could have easily sold the company to his business associates instead of giving his son a sweetheart deal to get the company.

 

For those unaware, the case that originally got Vince in trouble has surfaced again, but we've gotten to see details such as texts and other information. Now granted, it ain't impossible that Vince is in fact innocent. The stories are crazy and the texts aren't written in a way you'd expect famously behind the times Vince to write, but whatever the case he is finished. Vince's crony Johnny Ace was already finished, but now even more so. Some people are using that to say Pritchard, Dunn, and so forth were involved too and... no indication thus far. Pritchard and Dunn, going by how the texts read and due to the, not being rude, state of them, don't seem the types that Vince would take with him to the orgies. Might they have known that Vince was screwing a woman at the company? Highly likely, but there is a massive gulf between knowing Vince is having sex with some woman (not a crime) and... all of this (a crime).

 

A 'former UFC champion' who was re-negotiating in 2021 is also named so everyone is just saying Brock Lesnar as that seems to be who it obviously is. Though there is always the chance that it is Cain Velasquez, it seems unlikely that Vince and Cain would so quickly hit off a relationship this strong. For those unaware what is said is that basically Vince offered up the woman involved in the case to Brock as an added bonus to sign with the company. Two dates were set up for them to meet and have sex, but on both occasions Brock couldn't make it. Once due to being too drunk and the other because a snowstorm cancelled his flight. It is claimed that Brock while getting a look at her in a video call, asked her to urinate and then laughed at her. Brock is not a defendant in the case and even if all of this is all true he doesn't seem to have committed any crime due, fortunate for him, a snowstorm keeping him from his *ahem* appointment. If he ever addresses it then his defence can be as simple as him believing that she was simply an escort willing to do anything that Vince found, and that he knew nothing about the goings on.

 

Something has also been dredged up that is trying to attack HHH. That being him 8 years ago calling Ryan Nemeth, Ziggler's jobber brother in AEW, a bitter liar when he spoke up about the Bill DeMott stuff before it came out. Some either have missed the date on the comments and think it has to do with the case, or they're taking it as evidence that HHH also covered up this case. Again, did HHH (and Stephanie) know that Vince was having sex with a woman? Highly likely, but there is again a big difference between that and this. On top of that, it is believed by a good number of people that the whole leaks were done by HHH/Stephanie to begin due to what happened soon after. HHH had his NXT finally looked at and then destroyed (actually a good thing as NXT is far better now), with the heart attack that followed perhaps being what saved HHH from further action. Stephanie meanwhile was completely forced out and Vince even publicly stated that she was bad at her job. So possibly they learned of the seriousness of the matter at that time, leaked it, and Vince then punished them after putting two and two together. Another possibility is of course that they knew the whole time and only leaked it once Vince screwed them in some manner, logically involving the company. Considering Vince hates Shane, it seems doubtful that Vince would have told them that he was actually going to give everything to his son. Could it have been him saying that he was going to sell it as he ended up doing and the leaks happened to try and stop him? Possible, but Vince being who he is doesn't come off as the type who'd sell for the money like that. Vince's love as we know was his job and selling would take him away from that. Vince does appear to have a complex around 'having class', which money matters for, but once he made billionaire any money beyond that I imagine ceased to matter to him.

[jackmadrox]

goodbye Vince. You sick fucking bastard

[Infected Elite]

7 minutes ago, jackmadrox said:

goodbye Vince. You sick fucking bastard

agree. this isnt even one of those "its funny hes gone and now HHH and Rock are high up in the business". Its just like, Vince, go fuck yourself. 

 

I feel bad for Stephanie McMahon. 

[Infected Elite]

so 17 men are confirmed for rumble last i checked wikipedia. Jimmy Uso is, but Jey wasn't listed. So he's in. so I'd say 18. So 12 spots remain, Carmelo Hayes and Trick Williams should be 2 of those. So that has me at 20. 10 mystery ones. Lashley is in but Kross isn't listed... so ill say Kross makes it in. Still, that leaves me at 21/30. 9 for surprises. Maybe Bron Breakker? 22. The last 8, jobbers hahaha.

 

Womens rumble is always lacking announced stars. Sits currently at 10/30. I expect Mickie James, Jade Cargill to show up. Roxanne Perez. Gigi Dolan. Tiffany Stratton. Still, that's only 15/30.

 

Also, 4 matches?! wtf! 

 

Roman vs Orton vs Styles vs LA Knight (Yeah!) - Roman wins because hes only dropping it at Mania to Cody or if he gets seriously hurt.

 

Mens Rumble - I want Cody, i hope Cody, but gut tells me crybaby Phil wins. (Cody vs Roman 2, Punk vs Seth)

 

Womens - Bayley (Bayley vs Iyo at Mania) or Cargill (Iyo would drop belt to Bianca before mania. Then we get them.... joy)

 

Logan Paul vs Kevin Owens - Logan Paul. He wont drop it until Mania to someone like LA Knight (Yeah!)

 

It is a bit weird they couldn't add DIY vs Balor/Boredom for the tag belts and have DIY go over. But 4 matches is fine

 

 

Edited January 27 by Infected Elite

[SelectiveGamer]

21 hours ago, Infected Elite said:

Vince has resigned from TKO and WWE amid sexual allegations and sex trafficking.

 

Good riddance you sack of shit. 

 

 

He's truly gone for good everyone. He has no voting power to 'force himself back in' this time.

 

This time... it's truly for good. Go ahead. Celebrate.

 

 

[Infected Elite]

4 minutes ago, SelectiveGamer said:

 

 

He's truly gone for good everyone. He has no voting power to 'force himself back in' this time.

 

This time... it's truly for good. Go ahead. Celebrate.

 

 

 

so many jokes could be made with Vince memes from his on screen stuff, making fun of himself BUT....I'm not giving him anymore limelight dammit.

 

We are 1 hour away from the Royal Rumble..Rumor is mens and womens will have some stars from japan..Hopefully not Guilia as shes too good for WWE imo.

 

Match order supposedly leaked:

 

Womens Rumble

4 Way title

US title 

Mens rumble to close.

 

kinda makes sense. Have KO and LP be the piss break match lol

Edited January 27 by Infected Elite

[SelectiveGamer]

3 minutes ago, Infected Elite said:

We are 1 hour away from the Royal Rumble..Rumor is mens and womens will have some stars from japan..Hopefully not Guilia as shes too good for WWE imo.

 

I heard that her contract doesn't expire until March anyway. The rumors I've heard recently are still Naomi, Liv Morgan, Sonya Deville... and apparently Jordynne Grace from TNA?! 😱

 

Obviously just rumors though lol. We'll find out in little over an hour

Edited January 27 by SelectiveGamer

[Infected Elite]

3 minutes ago, SelectiveGamer said:

 

I heard that her contract doesn't expire until March anyway. The rumors I've heard recently are still Naomi, Liv Morgan, Sonya Deville... and apparently Jordynne Grace from TNA?! 😱

 

Obviously just rumors though lol. We'll find out in little over an hour

yeah they are trying to play with more companies. Also help TNA for some reason. I absolutely fuckin hate Naomi with a passion. Morgan i can see. Sonya yep.

Grace would be cool. I am glad Purrazzo isnt in because she's a better star and better on the mic than any wwe woman lol.

 

 

[Dauersack]

21 hours ago, Infected Elite said:

eh hes 78. Nothin against old people but he probably doesnt have much longer.

Thats wishful thinking, the guys mother just recently passed at 102 years of age, the guy has all the money in the world to keep living, most super rich lowlifes get to become really damn old, he may have another 20 years or more in him, unless someone takes him out first, which would be for the best.

 

22 hours ago, Infected Elite said:

 sack of shit. 

Literally, supposedly the guy shit into a womans hair during a group session, sounds about right. Also I wouldn't feel bad for Stephanie, Vince being a sexual predator has been a known fact for decades, she knows what her own father is all about, no doubt she at least knew and yet she did nothing to stop him, the whole family should be out of the company.

 

As for the Royal Rumble, I am kinda dreading it, because the two guys who are most likely to win are the ones I really do not want to win, namely Rhodes who's win would make this an exact one to one recycling of last years Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania story, and Punk, the guy who shouldn't even have been allowed to return, and in any case should be nowhere near the title picture after everything else he did outside of WWE flopped to make him come crawling back. The guy looks like a 55 year old gas station worker, standing in front of a hulking human being like Drew, acting all tough when we all have seen how shameful he looks in a real fight, the guy should be a manager at this point, or in a tag team with a new guy they want to get over at most. I'd rather see Gunther win, or anyone else aside from Rhodes and Punk

 

Edited January 28 by Dauersack

[willmill97]

I want Chad Gable to win to challenge Gunther at mania. Unlikely to happen sure, but it'd be different, surprising, but believable

[Infected Elite]

1 minute ago, willmill97 said:

I want Chad Gable to win to challenge Gunther at mania. Unlikely to happen sure, but it'd be different, surprising, but believable

different like when Theory cashed in on US Title? at least his reason made sense. Bitch boy is never around to cash in on.

 

24 minutes ago, Dauersack said:

Thats wishful thinking, the guys mother just recently passed at 102 years of age, the guy has all the money in the world to keep living, most super rich lowlifes get to become really damn old, he may have another 20 years or more in him, unless someone takes him out first, which would be for the best.

 

Literally, supposedly the guy shit into a womans hair during a group session, sounds about right. Also I wouldn't feel bad for Stephanie, Vince being a sexual predator has been a known fact for decades, she knows what her own father is all about, no doubt she at least knew and yet she did nothing to stop him, the whole family should be out of the company.

 

As for the Royal Rumble, I am kinda dreading it, because the two guys who are most likely to win are the ones I really do not want to win, namely Rhodes who's win would make this an exact one to one recycling of last years Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania story, and Punk, the guy who shouldn't even have been allowed to return, and in any case should be nowhere near the title picture after everything else he did outside of WWE flopped to make him come crawling back. The guy looks like a 55 year old gas station worker, standing in front of a hulking human being like Drew, acting all tough when we all have seen how shameful he looks in a real fight, the guy should be a manager at this point, or in a tag team with a new guy they want to get over at most. I'd rather see Gunther win, or anyone else aside from Rhodes and Punk

 

I do want Cody to win only because he's the only one who should beat that goof Roman. Unless again, he gets injured, crashes his bus, or some other unlikely accident. I dont want Rock v Roman. I dont want it for the title. I hate both lol.

 

It prob will be Punk. I want Rhodes. But i could see it being neither. Since they seem to be the favorites. 

 

as for Vince, if he survives to 100, by then we probably would be able to de-age people and freeze them. Ugh. These billionaires with access to that kind of technology would suck.

 

 

[R123Rob]

Let's get ready to rumble!

Edited January 28 by R123Rob

[LukeTheGooner]

is the mens straight after the ladies?