This has to stop..

[ShadowStar83x]

What the hell is this?!

[HcG Clawz]

I dont care what people say, the name alone makes me want to play this.

[Beyondthegrave07]

1 hour ago, Undead Wolf said:

 

 

I'm sorry, but just because some "poor college student" made a game and worked hard on it doesn't mean that game has the right to be released on every platform imaginable. It also doesn't mean that game is above criticism. There are websites like Itch.io which are much more suited to the whole "babby's first game" thing. If you release a game that looks like this on what's supposed to be a professional platform, you should expect some blowback. It's not unreasonable for people to expect some quality control, especially when they feel like standards have been getting worse and worse for years.

 

First of all, the people bitching about that have no idea what they're talking about. New Vita games- quality Vita games are releasing all the time to this day. Second of all, I'd rather have nothing than whatever this is. Sony tried!? More like they don't give a shit. "It'll make us a few bucks, so whatever, just release it".

I'm not saying that these games belong on the PSN store. I'm saying to put yourself in the person's shoes and imagine it's a college student who made their first game. Now imagine if they saw this thread after working hard on the project to get it finished... I'd feel like a turd sandwich if I was that person.

 

And I was being sarcastic about "Now, you have your Vita games." I'd doubt that the game even reaches 1000 owners on this site. And if it does, it isn't Sony you should be blaming for letting it on the store, it's the people endorsing these type of games.

[thegirlruka]

This does need to stop... judging games before playing them, I mean.

[xZoneHunter]

If Sony is going to continue to let its ecosystem deteriorate like this. It needs a solid refund system.

[Fing3rButt3r3]

17 hours ago, BlindMango said:

The art style is... interesting

 

Well I haven't been understanding why games like these are getting allowed on PS4, so I guess it's better to see it as a Vita game (seems to fit better on Vita), plus no platinum trophy, so it's not all bad I suppose  

 

Why not? Maybe Sony will get 90% of sales. Is a business afterall.

[Leenewbe]

doesn't have  plat wont be buying it,

"ps4 for the shovelware" 

unfortunately this is happening more and more with shovelware being imported in from phones/steam with higher prices.

[rattlehead57]

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

[Conker]

6 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

Well Said 100% Agree 

Edited August 30, 2017 by Jare

[Dav9834]

8 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

I will gladly take a free code! 

And power to you! ?

[Undead Wolf]

28 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Translation: "Please guys, I only want to see positive comments about my game. If you're not interested in it, then be quiet".

 

21 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo.

 

Where's the logic in this? Just because games like Journey, The Binding of Isaac, Rogue Legacy, Spelunky, Shovel Knight, and all of the other amazing indie games are allowed onto the platform doesn't mean they have to let every indie game through no matter how awful it is. There's this little thing called quality control.

 

31 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

You know what else you are? THE DEVELOPER OF THE GAME. But yes, let's just trust your opinion is totally unbiased, lol. 

[Redgrave]

28 minutes ago, rattlehead57 said:

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer.

 

Having to say it is fun isn't really a good thing. It's like a book author saying "My book is very good and written well". That's up for whoever buys and plays it.

[angelgrievous]

Man, some of you are being really ridiculous.  I mean it's my money and I don't want any of you telling me how I spend it.  I also don't want anyone at Sony "curating" games because they might not appeal to everyone.  Who the hell gets that job?  That Jimquisition guy?  Give me a break.  

 

I've had this discussion/argument before on this site and I brought up a point using a video rental store.  I'll use Netflix here.  I love that I can browse Netflix, read a description of the movie/show, and read reviews of it.  Then, being the adult that I am, make an informed decision.  Likewise, I can do the same on PSN, so can everyone else.  There are a ton of terrible movies/shows on Netflix, and there are also some bad games on PSN/XBOX LIVE/STEAM  If we give the power to someone to "curate" what gets put on the store, we run the risk of missing out on potentially good games. I think this is what the developer was implying when they mentioned Journey, etc...  

 

I'm not a game developer but I know that it is a very tough business.  Making games is probably a very trying and expensive endeavor.  Getting the game released is probably just as hard without someone deciding if they think anyone would like it.  If the game is bad, it will come out via reviews/poor sales.  So either wait for said reviews or be a day one adopter and run the risk of buying something you might not like.  

 

I do think Sony should, and probably will, implement some sort of refund policy for online purchases.  Until then, try to make an informed decision before buying it.  Be an adult with your money and don't blame anyone else.  

 

To the developer:  If you want to send me a code for your game I will give it a fair shake and leave an honest opinion of it here in this very thread.  I'm not a game review but I would be willing to share exactly how I feel about your game.  

 

Just my 2 cents.

Edited August 30, 2017 by angelgrievous

[Cassylvania]

Totally agree with @angelgrievous. This is ridiculous. The developer came in here, was extremely polite in his response to what has honestly been a series of unwarranted attacks, and even offered to give away free codes to his game. Good luck even getting a response from most developers these days. Also, I keep seeing the phrase "quality control" being tossed around, as if any of you have play tested the game. What are you basing this on? The graphics? The gameplay? That's funny to me because I remember a little game called Flappy Bird that was just as simple and quickly became one of the most downloaded game on mobile devices, until it had to be removed from the store due to how addictive it was. Games like Doodle Jump aren't far behind.

 

The moral of this story is: you never know what people will like, so stop acting like everybody thinks the same as you.

 

[fisty123]

2 hours ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

I am planing on buying this game so I won't take the free code and show the support, I play a lot of long time investment games so games like this are a nice change of pace and a lot of them are rather fun. Hope it goes well and I hope some of the comments here won't stop you from putting more games on Sony devices in the future.

[direct-harvest0]

3 hours ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

I'm sorry everyone's sharing negative opinion to a game they have never even played yet. I'd be willing to give this game a shot free code or not and give you my opinion good or bad to help you out. Seeing as this is your first game that you've made and it was picked up to be put on PSN that's pretty fucking cool in my opinion and I hope you continue to improve and make better games.

[rattlehead57]

Thanks for the positive feedback, guys.

 

Quote

Translation: "Please guys, I only want to see positive comments about my game. If you're not interested in it, then be quiet".

I think it was pretty obvious to most people that I meant: If you don't like the look of the game, then don't buy it.

 

5 hours ago, Undead Wolf said:

Where's the logic in this? Just because games like Journey, The Binding of Isaac, Rogue Legacy, Spelunky, Shovel Knight, and all of the other amazing indie games are allowed onto the platform doesn't mean they have to let every indie game through no matter how awful it is. There's this little thing called quality control.

The point is that it's impossible for Sony to look at every game in-depth. They don't have the resources. But if they did, then you would have to limit the number of games that make it to the platform. And who is going to hold the keys to the kingdom? You?

 

People have different tastes. Hell, some people wouldn't give Journey the time of day! And I, personally, don't like Rogue Legacy. Would you want to risk missing one of these games based on one person's opinion of them?

 

5 hours ago, Undead Wolf said:

You know what else you are? THE DEVELOPER OF THE GAME. But yes, let's just trust your opinion is totally unbiased, lol. 

Obvs.

 

5 hours ago, Redgrave said:

Having to say it is fun isn't really a good thing. It's like a book author saying "My book is very good and written well". That's up for whoever buys and plays it.

Yeah, and no one here has played it.

I wouldn't describe all games as "fun". Demon Souls isn't fun (IMO). It's challenging. It's beautiful. It's innovative. But it's not fun.

 

To anyone who's interested in a code, PM me with your region (EU or NA), and I'll get back to you ASAP.

 

Thanks again.

Edited August 30, 2017 by rattlehead57

[Crispy_Oglop]

It never ends well when a developer decides to jump in like this. For anyone involved.

 

If you make a game, regardless of whether you are a single individual making it or whether you are part of an entire multi-layered studio you need to accept the fact that your created material will be open to scrutiny whether it is monetized or not. If you do not do this right from the start, you will end up hating what you do and the people you are making the games for. This isn't just for games either, the same applies to books, movies and any other media that is designed for public consumption.

 

You'll get your game reviewed and discussed. The only differing factor is the frequency and length of the discussion depending on how high profile or marketable the title is. Having an opinion on whether your game is good or not (regardless of how acceptable you feel the opinion is) is not something you can combat and is the right of everyone who sees and plays it as soon as it is deemed release-worthy for the masses. This isn't circumstantial or occasional - it's a constant.

 

It's also something you have to accept to be able to exist as an indie developer or a mainstream one. It's part of the entire process. If you can't develop some resilience and hardiness to this, then you need to rethink your strategy.

 

This isn't just me talking by the way, there are historical examples of this being the case - a good example to check out is at the creator of Fez and the story of how he quit the gaming industry in a destructive way. So what i'm finding concerning here, is that you've created a user profile on a popular trophy site to tackle anyone who is debating, talking about or criticizing your game. And your primary rationale is - go easy on me, I did this on my own, I'll give you my game for free too. As if expecting some kind of leeway or concession. On the other hand you've elevated and connected positively with everyone who has provided encouraging words.

 

What you've done here is to not only step out of your own professional bounds, but you've also decided to try and create a division between the community that you've literally just joined by arguing with the people who said things you didn't like and embraced the ones you did.

 

You are 2-3 posts into your membership on this site and this in my opinion is one of the most destructive ways to join any community. I don't even care about your game anymore because what you've successfully done is to create a situation where the thread is not about your game, it's about you.

 

I appreciate the amount of effort and time it takes to make a game, especially on your own. But if you have any hope of developing games in future you need to grow up a bit and take debate and criticism in a more mature way. And the first tip to this, is to not white-knight yourself into an entire PSN community to blindly defend your own creation.

 

[DF007gamer]

14 hours ago, Beyondthegrave07 said:

Agreed. Some poor college student is probably crying their eyes out reading comments here on what a piece of trash it is.

 

Plus, people are always bitching about the Vita never getting new games... Well, at least Sony tried.

 

At last someone who thinks about other peoples feelings. Those people that bitch about the game been shit, I would wonder if they had a son/daughter who made a game like this what would they be saying. 

If the game is crap they can at least give some CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and not "This game is shit"  

6 hours ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

 

First off thanks for supporting the VITA . Will be buying the game as soon as I can. Secondly ignore any shitty comments about the game unless it's something constructive but I personally like games like this for on the go and a break from the AAA games. Don't take negative comments to heart as the INTERNET can be more toxic then good. Thanks anyways and you will have my support. 

PS...that lizard better have multiple lives.

[DF007gamer]

On 8/29/2017 at 7:07 AM, demonoid321 said:

Why does Sony keep releasing trash like this on the PSN? Like really? By the video I just watched on this game it looks like something that took zero to no effort to make

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDJ0Jy1bIk

 

 

Well you can stop it by not supporting games like this if you don't like it. It seems you like games like this (looking at your list) so why are you contradicting yourself. 

[Izularia]

8 hours ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

Sorry to see you had to read some really mean comments. Keep it up and thanks for stopping by!  

[Property_Damage]

7 hours ago, rattlehead57 said:

Hi guys.

 

Dev of Licky Lizard here. 

 

Here's the launch trailer: 

 

 

Firstly, think a few of you might wanna chill a little. No one is forcing you to buy my game. If you don't like the look of it, then the solution is simple...

 

Secondly, there was more than "zero effort" put into this game, I can assure you. But it is my first game, and so I do appreciate that it's by no means a masterpiece. But it is fun - that I can be sure of. 

 

Thirdly, I appreciate that PS fans want only the best games on PSN, but that dream is over. It ended with the advent of the indie game. If you want special indie games like Journey and the like, well then you're (Sony) also leaving the door open for trophy bait like My Name Is Mayo. This isn't trophy bait; this isn't Life of Black Tiger; this is a fun, addictive little arcade platformer. But whatever, I'm the only one here who has played it, so what do I know?

 

Anyway, cheers to the people here who don't tear into a small indie game made by one guy, without even seeing the final game. Hit me up if you're interested in a free code. 

 

Cheers. 

To be honest, after seeing the trailer. I would play the game, seems like a fun little platformer to kill some time with, congrats on making a game and being teamed up with Sony to help you build your brand, good luck

[rattlehead57]

24 minutes ago, Crispy_Oglop said:

So what i'm finding concerning here, is that you've created a user profile on a popular trophy site to tackle anyone who is debating, talking about or criticizing your game. And your primary rationale is - go easy on me, I did this on my own, I'll give you my game for free too. As if expecting some kind of leeway or concession. On the other hand you've elevated and connected positively with everyone who has provided encouraging words.

That's not my rationale at all. I came in here to make it clear that this isn't some port of a mobile game that I'm releasing on Vita to make a quick buck. It was conceived and designed with the Vita in mind. And it's not "trash" (but for the moment you'll have to take my word for it). FWIW, the game couldn't even work on a mobile device as the controls are too complex.

 

I'm member of the PS community, and have been for a long time now. I chose to release this game on Vita, because it's a platform I know and love. I don't play games on Steam, and have no familiarity with how things work over there, so I didn't feel comfortable putting a game there. And also, as ridiculous as this might sound, I want to play this game myself.

 

34 minutes ago, Crispy_Oglop said:

What you've done here is to not only step out of your own professional bounds, but you've also decided to try and create a division between the community that you've literally just joined by arguing with the people who said things you didn't like and embraced the ones you did.

TBH, the division was here before I posted. Some people agreed that trashing a game they hadn't played, or hadn't even seen finished footage of was a bit much.

 

I'm not trying to be "destructive", I'm simply giving people all the information that otherwise might have been lacking. So that they can make an informed decision about the game, not a rash one.

[AffectatiousDonk]

@rattlehead57, I read through this thread and I sympathise with you. Unfortunately there is a small but very vocal minority that seem to feel their opinion is often warranted and justified regardless of actually relevance or knowledge of the issue. Many of them have never created anything but freely shoot down anything that doesn't fit their ideal. Perhaps one day they will understand how difficult it is to fund any creative project  ( or shock horror actually acknowledge that a person is trying to make a living ) although it is doubtful. I wish you well and will buy your game too as I am happy to support someone who is actively creating something. As will many others on here, but I wouldn't waste your time engaging with the negativity, no matter how hard you try you can never out argue someone who is solely focused on how something impacts them.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2017 by CjShai

[Satoshi Ookami]

12 hours ago, Undead Wolf said:

New Vita games- quality Vita games are releasing all the time to this day.

Japanese games are obviously not games  

Edited August 30, 2017 by Satoshi Ookami