Popular Post RevengeancePrime Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2019 The real question is, will people ever stop asking this kind of question? 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theomgkitteh Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, ObliviousSenpai said: The real question is, will people ever stop asking this kind of question? No 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, starcrunch061 said: Is that a real term? I've heard people say it, but I just thought it was another word for "shill". If you want to be incredibly negative and pessimistic about everything you could view it that way. Edited November 7, 2019 by Gage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gage said: If you want to be incredibly negative and pesamistic about everything you could view it that way. Well, I certainly am both of those things, but apparently, so too was each person from whom I read the term prior. So again, are there people who use the term "influencer" in a positive way? It doesn't really sound that positive at the end of the day regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEI2EK Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: Well, I certainly am both of those things, but apparently, so too was each person from whom I read the term prior. So again, are there people who use the term "influencer" in a positive way? It doesn't really sound that positive at the end of the day regardless. i think youtubers started using it to try and sound like their jobs are more important than just making videos about videogames and making funny faces for views. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gage Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: Well, I certainly am both of those things, but apparently, so too was each person from whom I read the term prior. So again, are there people who use the term "influencer" in a positive way? It doesn't really sound that positive at the end of the day regardless. "Shill" has the negative connotation of being someone working with another party to more or less scam you. "Influencer" is basically a catch all term for internet people who aren't specially something like a reviewer, journalist, artist, etc. I wouldn't say it's anything other than a neutral term unless you're personally viewing it as a negative due to prejudices against people using the term. Edited November 7, 2019 by Gage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DangerSpice Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: So again, are there people who use the term "influencer" in a positive way? It doesn't really sound that positive at the end of the day regardless. I work in marketing for video games, and I've done a bunch of influencer marketing over the years. "Influencer" is just a catch-all term for people with an audience, because it's easier for me to call it "influencer marketing" than making a bucket labeled "Twitch/YouTube/Mixer etc." (especially since not all of YouTube would be influencer activity). For non-games, there are also influencers on Instagram, etc. It's not a positive or negative term, influencers are just another marketing channel like email, social, etc. It can sound icky if you think about it in the sense that we're paying these people to manipulate you into buying something, but if we keep things above board (and not everyone does, but many do) they're making it clear that they were paid to talk about the product (or that they were sent the review copy for free) and they're giving their honest opinions about something, not trying to do anything underhanded. I've worked with well over 100 streamers/YouTubers/etc., and I've never once said anything about how positive they need to be about my product, it's just been "Cool, we'll pay you $X and you'll use this on 3 streams over the next week, yeah?" Edited November 7, 2019 by DangerSpice 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucienNL Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, DEI2EK said: i think youtubers started using it to try and sound like their jobs are more important than just making videos about videogames and making funny faces for views. A sharp person. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, DangerSpice said: I work in marketing for video games, and I've done a bunch of influencer marketing over the years. "Influencer" is just a catch-all term for people with an audience, because it's easier for me to call it "influencer marketing" than making a bucket labeled "Twitch/YouTube/Mixer etc." (especially since not all of YouTube would be influencer activity). For non-games, there are also influencers on Instagram, etc. It's not a positive or negative term, influencers are just another marketing channel like email, social, etc. It can sound icky if you think about it in the sense that we're paying these people to manipulate you into buying something, but if we keep things above board (and not everyone does, but many do) they're making it clear that they were paid to talk about the product (or that they were sent the review copy for free) and they're giving their honest opinions about something, not trying to do anything underhanded. I've worked with well over 100 streamers/YouTubers/etc., and I've never once said anything about how positive they need to be about my product, it's just been "Cool, we'll pay you $X and you'll use this on 3 streams over the next week, yeah?" Thanks for the explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSquirrell1 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I was wondering if the game is that short? I mean, platinum in 3 days or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerSpice Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, BlackSquirrell1 said: I was wondering if the game is that short? I mean, platinum in 3 days or so? PowerPyx's guide says 125-175 hours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nitemares----- Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2019 People actually think a critics review aka opinion actually matters. YouTubers = influencer, is like saying someone on Instagram is a model LMAO ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucienNL Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Nitemares----- said: People actually think a critics review aka opinion actually matters. YouTubers = influencer, is like saying someone on Instagram is a model LMAO ? Exactly. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yongyea had the game for a few weeks before release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Some smaller stores don't care much about street date and review copies. It happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KubaLenart Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 review and promo copies - best example - Powerpyx, who dropped today on his page trophy guide for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCenaSong- Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This question comes up every time there's a big new game and 9 times out of 10 it will be the same answers, maybe there should be some kind of trophy FAQ on this site that includes stuff like this and other common questions/situations and maybe terminology people ask about so everyone in the community can be aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBizzle311 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yeah nothing new here.. Doesn't matter how "big" or "hyped" the game is.. People have and always will get things before the actual release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashero Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Nitemares----- said: People actually think a critics review aka opinion actually matters. YouTubers = influencer, is like saying someone on Instagram is a model LMAO ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto_lsi Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 hours ago, P-Low14 said: Im still seeing 0% on all trophies?? https://psnprofiles.com/100-club/9955-death-stranding 6 Plats so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSXtreme_ Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Probably Ukrainians this time... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XLordXNightmareX Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Smashero said: The problem is that someone may take "soldier in Call of Duty" like someone is in the actual military Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDavidson Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Some kid wearing a life preserver handed them out to a select few people from a flying Delorean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSXtreme_ Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, XLordXNightmareX said: The problem is that someone may take "soldier in Call of Duty" like someone is in the actual military Naw..the only warriors they know are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD-D2 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) I work in the media. Sony gave an absolute shitload of review copies out to press (multiple copies to most outlets, which is rare for video games), influencers/YouTubers, and general games industry people. I’m guessing there were more than a few trophy hunters in that bunch. Since DS is a game that relies on the online community to make the world more dynamic, it makes sense. Edited November 7, 2019 by JD-D2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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