PSNP Boosting Threads

[FilmFanatic]

As we all know the forums are constantly bombarded with people making boosting threads. Is there any reason we can’t have a proper boosting thread that’s pinned under a games forum?

 

No doubt one reason will be, ‘That’s what gaming sessions are for’. My argument against this would be that some trophies are easier to boost by using a gaming session. For example Posse Up! in Red Dead Redemption requires 8 people in total so seting up a gaming session is useful so that everyone knows when to be online. However other trophies like reaching a certain level in MP are better off with just adding people to your friends list from a boosting thread and messaging them when they are online (at least in my opinion). Yes you could do this via a gaming session but if the MP grinding is going to take a while then you keep having to change the session date to keep it open. Plus once you have the trophies you’ll close the session meaning someone else who needs the trophies starts a new session doing exactly the same thing. At least with a boosting thread anyone can view it and see who is currently looking for partners to team up with (as long as people who have finished with the game update their post to say so).

 

Most people who make these boosting threads have never used the forums before and so aren’t aware of the no boosting threads rule. I don’t know whether they go to a games forum to see if there’s a boosting thread or just make one without checking but surely a proper boosting thread that reduces these random threads by even a little bit is better than nothing right?

 

Obviously there are a heap of games out there with MP or online co-op so going back through every game to make a boosting thread would be a lot of work but making one for all new games or games that have been out for a couple of years and are still reasonably active would certainly be useful.

 

Lastly, yes this is an idea from PST but it’s one I’d like to see here as I’ve boosted far more game from PSTs boosting threads than I have PSNPs gaming sessions.

[adam1984123]

Agree with you 100%. 

[Ghobimon]

Imo both work great, what I tend to do is create a session with unlimited players (if trophies take more than 2 people) and create a group either on PS Messages app or Discord, and we go from there as soon as we have enough available, thus making the gaming session only a starting point.

 

But I can see your point of view so support, one stickied thread per game wouldn't hurt.

[Reinachii-]

Yeah, i agree ^^

Gaming sessions have never worked for me

[Otonio_Bruno]

Bad idea. For two reasons:

 

- New members will complete flood a game sub-forum making their own boosting threads. No matter if you say there is only one boosting thread, people will make new ones even after seeing a general boosting because they have 'reasons'. Then it will make moderation work much more in order to keep locking these threads and warning people to not do it. If it already happens with a clea rule of no boosting threads at all, imagine if you start creating general boosting threads...

 

- People will start to annoy anyone that has ever posted in that thread, asking if you can help them with boosting, even though you did it 3 years ago.

 

Gaming sessions work fine for both "Kill this player X on map Y with this weapon Z." or trophies like "Reach multiplayer level 100 on Prestige 50". Just schedule the session to be an ongoing session, like many people already do here, create a PS Messages or Discord group and keep adding any new players.

[FilmFanatic]

27 minutes ago, Otonio_Bruno said:

Bad idea. For two reasons:

 

- New members will complete flood a game sub-forum making their own boosting threads. No matter if you say there is only one boosting thread, people will make new ones even after seeing a general boosting because they have 'reasons'. Then it will make moderation work much more in order to keep locking these threads and warning people to not do it. If it already happens with a clea rule of no boosting threads at all, imagine if you start creating general boosting threads...

 

- People will start to annoy anyone that has ever posted in that thread, asking if you can help them with boosting, even though you did it 3 years ago.

 

Gaming sessions work fine for both "Kill this player X on map Y with this weapon Z." or trophies like "Reach multiplayer level 100 on Prestige 50". Just schedule the session to be an ongoing session, like many people already do here, create a PS Messages or Discord group and keep adding any new players.

So you’re saying people will purposely ignore a pinned official boosting thread? I haven’t seen that happen on PST so why would it necessarily happen here? I would say that once people start to realise PSNP has proper boosting threads they won’t see the need to make their own.

 

As for annoying people after they have finished the game. I’ve had this happen once on PST and that was because I had forgotten to update the post I had made when boosting the game saying that I was no longer playing it. If people are really that concerned about this happening then don’t post on the thread and can’t happen.

 

There also is no obvious clear rule about not making boosting threads here. The only place I have seen it is in the What To Do When You Want To Boost A Trophy thread and the people making these threads don’t look for that.

[Helyx]

22 minutes ago, FilmFanatic said:

So you’re saying people will purposely ignore a pinned official boosting thread?

 

They sure fuckin' will.

[jjmello23]

the only thing i hate in gaming sessions is people just promoting their discord.

[HuntingFever]

5 hours ago, FilmFanatic said:

So you’re saying people will purposely ignore a pinned official boosting thread? I haven’t seen that happen on PST so why would it necessarily happen here? I would say that once people start to realise PSNP has proper boosting threads they won’t see the need to make their own.

Trust me, it happens more often than you think. We've had dedicated boosting threads for years now on PST but still have deal with unauthorised secondary (or even tetriary) boosting threads, several times a week.

Edited February 17, 2019 by HuntingFever
Update.

[TugaSonic]

6 hours ago, FilmFanatic said:

So you’re saying people will purposely ignore a pinned official boosting thread? I haven’t seen that happen on PST so why would it necessarily happen here? I would say that once people start to realise PSNP has proper boosting threads they won’t see the need to make their own.

 

 

It does happen on PST since I've seen it happen on multiple occasions. The reason why you might not have seen them is that the moderators might have deleted those threads before you saw them.

 

About your suggestion, while I think that a boosting thread as it's advantages I want to suggest the idea of that allowing a gaming session with unlimited players to run for a longer time (like a year) or giving the option to transfer the session creator to someone else. This way as the creator of the session you don't have to worry about renewing the session date (when I created the gaming session for Little Deviants a long time ago I left it end like twice because I forgot to change the date forward) and when you're done with the trophies you can just give the job of continuing that session to someone else.

[SnowxSakura]

9 hours ago, Otonio_Bruno said:

- People will start to annoy anyone that has ever posted in that thread, asking if you can help them with boosting, even though you did it 3 years ago.

I freaking hate that, I still very rarely get messages asking for help boosting front mission even though I did it back in 2011

 

Guy messaged me on xbox live 2 months ago asking for help on riddick when I hadn't touched the game since 2010 

Edited February 17, 2019 by SnowxSakura

[Vynzen]

Completely support that!

 

[ProfBambam55]

I like the lack of boosting threads since the gaming sessions here are pretty epic...saves jumping around the site and reading over multiple thread pages to find compatible partners...the ability to see everyone's time zones, progress, and post messages/links is great...for lengthier/ongoing sessions, if someone never shows up or is disruptive, delete them from the session and move on...the current format offers very simple organizing in an eye-pleasing manner which I find boosting threads can not do nearly as well or efficiently...for sessions that require multiple days, a good host can prove their dedication by updating in the session itself and bumping the date ahead regularly...host sucks?...all good... just create your own session and run it how you see fit...

 

the funny thing though is that some games actually have boosting threads...never quite understood why...examples:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[fastflowdaman]

One official boosting thread, other threads insta-closed and deleted, handing out warning points instantly w/o any notice beforehand. Easy. 

[Parker]

2 hours ago, ProfBambam55 said:

the funny thing though is that some games actually have boosting threads...never quite understood why

 

I used to create "official" boosting threads for upcoming popular games in order to try to prevent a ton of boosting threads being posted. Sly asked me to stop as he wanted people using the Gaming Sessions feature. As dj_helyx so eloquently stated in regards to people ignoring official boosting threads;

 

16 hours ago, dj_helyx said:

They sure fuckin' will.

 

Even for games with official boosting threads, there was still a multitude of individual boosting threads posted so they really didn't do anything anyway. 

 

 

Parker

[ProfBambam55]

23 minutes ago, Parker said:

I used to create "official" boosting threads for upcoming popular games in order to try to prevent a ton of boosting threads being posted. Sly asked me to stop as he wanted people using the Gaming Sessions feature.

makes a lot of sense and I wholeheartedly agree; gaming sessions are the way to go...my favourite site feature, as a matter of fact...official boosting thread mystery -> solved...thanks...

[B1rvine]

Allowing users to choose their preference between thread or session will likely fracture the effectiveness of boosts.  Undoubtedly, one portion of the community will use one and vice versa, leading to each not having enough people for the boost.  Sure, they could intermingle, but if they're doing that, there's no reason sessions couldn't be the default option for everybody to begin with. 

 

19 hours ago, Reinachii- said:

Gaming sessions have never worked for me

 

If sessions are used properly, they will always work better than threads. There's really no exceptions to this.

 

Since sessions are (generally) always going to have people that are currently and actively hunting the trophy within a short period of time, they're easily more reliable and more organized than a chaotic thread of uncertainty. If your issue is the boosting session "ends" too quickly for long boosts and you have to extend it, just let it end. You all should be in some of communication whether its discord, PSN Chat, or on each others friend lists to where its easy to schedule so you can easily reschedule the next game time, that you no longer "need" an actual session to exist.

 

 

Edited February 17, 2019 by B1rvine

[TheYuriG]

I'm very much against this.

 

This website has a feature developed specifically for boosting. This is downright suggesting to allow people to not use it.

 

The greatness of the gaming sessions is that they are temporary. Once it's done, the session will still show for week for those who joined and then it's gone FOREVER. People are retarded, you can't count on your fingers how many times people will come and add you because they saw your name on something posted years ago.

 

I'm gonna tag @Stevieboy and @Dr_Mayus just so they can share their horror stories here.

[Dr_Mayus]

7 minutes ago, TheYuriG said:

I'm very much against this.

 

This website has a feature developed specifically for boosting. This is downright suggesting to allow people to not use it.

 

The greatness of the gaming sessions is that they are temporary. Once it's done, the session will still show for week for those who joined and then it's gone FOREVER. People are retarded, you can't count on your fingers how many times people will come and add you because they saw your name on something posted years ago.

 

I'm gonna tag @Stevieboy and @Dr_Mayus just so they can share their horror stories here.

Ooh...I have 2

 

As I have said many times in the past I am among the first to get Little Deviant trophies as I was given my free Vita before release date since I worked for Sony. For years afterwards I got people asking to please help get the 1 online trophy that is glitchy for most people. I had people offering me 20$ PSN cards etc. Honestly I tried to help people but the trophy was so glitchy that I could never get it to unlock for anyone. I eventually posted to stop adding me and I remember there was a much angrier post to stop adding me (Might have been on .ORG) but people kept adding me. It was actually this trophy that led to me making my profile private because I would get adds at least once a week looking for help with this trophy.

 

The other is Red Dead Redemption. I got the online trophies just by playing Online but I had made a post in a Boosting Thread as I wasn't sure if I would need it at the time. 2 years later...that is TWO YEARS LATER...I got a message on PSN asking to boost. I politely answered back that "I have sold the game and don't have it anymore. Check the boosting thread for people still playing the game. 

 

He then responded back calling me a names and telling me that I take the help whenever I want it and won't even give back when others need help. I was like 'I SOLD THE GAME TWO YEARS AGO I AM NOT GOING TO BUY IT AGAIN TO HELP YOU WHEN THERE ARE DOZENS OF OTHER PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP"

 

Anyways, that is why I don't like Boosting threads

 

Also, how would I post my Disney Game Session Parody songs then

 

I have often dreamed
of a place to play
Where a set of dedicated gamers
Will be waiting for me
It doesn't matter the region
Whether it is Night or Day
And a certain thread keeps saying
This is where I'm meant to be

I will find some friends
We can earn the platinum
My backlog will be cleansed
I cannot say for how long
I know every plat
Will be as easy as that
I will post in the game sessions
to feel like I belong
 

[mackenzie129]

I actually switched sites because of this sessions feature, its been 4 years Ive gotten 2 messages about Bioshock trophies I posted I needed help there 4 years ago. This site I made a session and got some people we did our thing and then it was done and gone no more requests, Though some people in these sessions are cancer there was this guy arch something something joined and because we didnt start the exact time as posted he threw a hissy fit and left. But it makes it so much easier like you know the group you're going in with you know the ETL and the time, Forums its hit or miss all the time blankity blank is on at this time oh well blank blank is on at this other time, with sessions its like 10:00pm start 11:00pm end everyone who joins tries to work for that time.

[fastflowdaman]

It would be a good idea if you could get yourself tagged and untagged in such a thread.

 

Tagged - I want to boost, add me

Untagged - no longer, invisible

 

That way no one needs to be afraid of getting harassed after finishing the trophies.

[Helyx]

45 minutes ago, fastflowdaman said:

It would be a good idea if you could get yourself tagged and untagged in such a thread.

 

Tagged - I want to boost, add me

Untagged - no longer, invisible

 

That way no one needs to be afraid of getting harassed after finishing the trophies.

 

That's actually a really good idea. 

 

Too bad these buffoons would still find a way to circumvent all the effort of making it work properly...just like duplicate threads.

[BEST_OF_ALL_TlME]

I need to create a gaming session for a game that I'm not on yet and have no trophies for yet but this website won't let me. What should I do?

[TugaSonic]

14 minutes ago, BEST_OF_ALL_TlME said:

I need to create a gaming session for a game that I'm not on yet and have no trophies for yet but this website won't let me. What should I do?

Start the game so its trophy list is added. Update your profile and see if the list appears on your profile here (if it doesn't try earning a trophy, can be on that game or on another game your playing) then you should be able to create a gaming session for the game.

[PSXtreme_]

 

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.