Rumour: Horizon Zero Dawn remaster is in the works for PS5

[MonaSaxPayne]

37 minutes ago, The Alchemist said:

I've never understood why people get so up in arms about remasters, not just recent PlayStation remasters, but remasters in general even going back to the PS4 generation. 

 

PS4 remasters of PS3 games were ok because u couldn't play PS3 games on a PS4

 

not only can u play PS4 games on a PS5, quite a few PS4 games got free performance/visuals updates (which is essentially what smart delivery is over on xbox X|S - also for free)

 

for Sony to charge $70 for a PS5 remaster of a PS4 game thats only a few years old, and quite frankly doesn't need to be remastered in the first place, is beyond scummy 

Edited October 3, 2022 by MonaSaxPayne

[matkingdomhearts]

More clown-y than Sony's management team are those that are going to pay full price for a game they can get at 10% the remake price just for some visual upgrades. "But they are gonna implement HFW gameplay to it!", ah yes, just like they added TLOU2 gameplay to the remake as they were saying. Oh, wait.

 

Stop defending these practices. STOP FINANCING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE RUINING THE GAMING INDUSTRY. Once making games was felt like making art, making something from the heart, to tell something. Nowadays is the same as any other media industry, money money easy money, just tour average USA capital-oriented industry. No risks, no inventive, no novelty. We kept quiet and sucked it up with DLCs, and now we get half-games with expansions clearly cut-out just to speculate. We did the same with paying for online, while we already pay for the game and the internet provider. And those are just two of the many instances.

 

"We believe in generations", and then they did not. "No one wants to play old games" (the excuse for no full backward compatibility) but then they do. Meanwhile we are still calling it "the next generation" while we should be calling it "current generation". Why we do so? Because 90% of the stuff coming out is multy-gen. Do you mean I paid my PS5 just to get quicker loading times? It's been 2 years, focus on new games for Christ sake. If I wanted to play again HZD (which I did recently) I would do it already on my PS5 with backwards compatibility. It looked great, and felt awesome.

"Well no one makes you buy it", but given how little they are gonna spend on making it, even if only few people buy it then they gonna break even. And if they do, they will do it more often, again and again. Just a few months was TLOURemake, after all.

I seriously hope this is a baseless rumor, but it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't given the precedents. And if it's indeed true, I'll be honest, with Sony's anticonsumer behavior, many people moving to PC/mobile gaming, and how Microsoft is getting back a little bit of market year after year, I think Playstation's (real) next gen is gonna be pretty bad for them.

How greediness and uninformed players have ruined my favorite industry, how sad.

 

Edit: oh, wait, they already did this with Spiderman Remastered (which, at least, was not full price but just 20€ more, but at the time only with getting the other new game too) and with Uncharted4/Lost Remastered (not even discounted for people who already owned them on PS4). And the more I think the more other sad episodes come to mind, like making demos being available only behind a subscription, while not having a proper digital return policy nor some "trial time" on games, thus getting stacked with keeping broken/marketing-misleading games, if not for rare instances like Cyberpunk. #ForThePayers, I guess.

Edited October 3, 2022 by matkingdomhearts

[the1andonly654]

39 minutes ago, The Alchemist said:

 

I've never understood why people get so up in arms about remasters, not just recent PlayStation remasters, but remasters in general even going back to the PS4 generation. I genuinely enjoy revisiting some of my favourite games a few years on, for another platinum and some nicer visuals if for nothing else. It isn't as though these remasters stop new games from getting made. If they did then that would understandably be a different situation, but it's not the case. It just all seems a bit hysterical and melodramatic if you ask me. 

And do you actually see the that much of a difference? Aside from the obvious 30 vs 60fps difference of course. Let's say you play HZD at launch. Then HFW at launch. Then a HZD remaster that looks like HFW in technical aspects. 

Do you really say "omg, this looks so much better" without comparing it to the original or watching a digital foundry video? 

 

And any resources put into a remaster, whether it's talented people or money, it's less resources that can be put into new games. 

 

I get remastering older games, PS2 and earlier, maybe even some PS3 ones. I like older games. I'm actually playing them more and more recently. But HZD is not an old game, it doesn't look bad even by today's standards, it doesn't feel old at all. I can't think of one thing about this game that needs remastering. Trophies aside. 

 

 

[The Alchemist]

9 minutes ago, the1andonly654 said:

And do you actually see the that much of a difference?

 

And any resources put into a remaster, whether it's talented people or money, it's less resources that can be put into new games. 

 

But HZD is not an old game, it doesn't look bad even by today's standards, it doesn't feel old at all. I can't think of one thing about this game that needs remastering. Trophies aside. 

 

1. Yes.

 

2. The article literally mentions a multiplayer spin-off is also in the works. Not to mention the Call of the Mountain game for PSVR 2 also coming from Guerrilla. New games still get made and released. Remasters and remakes do not stop that process from happening.

 

3. I agree. HZD still plays and looks good. A remaster of not only this, but similar games isn't really necessary as I've already mentioned previously. I would rather see some older PS1/2 titles that I adore getting the full remake treatment instead.

[Fr_0zt]

Sitting here waiting for a Bloodborne 60 fps patch.... A fuken PATCH.  Is that too much to ask for!? 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Fr_0zt

[The Alchemist]

1 minute ago, Fr_0zt said:

Sitting here waiting for a Bloodborne 60 fps patch.... A fuken PATCH.  Is that too much to ask for!? 

 

Pray for a Bloodborne show or movie and you might get your wish ?

[GabrielMS13]

I wish they remade more games from the PS2 and early PS3 era. A PS5 version of MotorStrom would be amazing... Also there's this really obscure flight-sim PS2 launch title called Sky Odyssey. I'm very fond of this one and I'd absolutely love to see it getting the remake treatment some day.

[Dauersack]

I thought it was incredibly stupid for The Last Of Us and I think it is incredibly stupid for Horizon Zero Dawn, and I really liked both games despite not deeming either game perfect. It made sense to go from PS3 TLOU to PS4 back then given how many people came over from other platforms and the lack of ability to play the PS3 version on the PS4, but that is not the case with HZD given that it is compatible already. HZD is nowhere near old and outdated enough to justify a remaster for some slightly better graphics alone, the old game can be played on PS5 and the graphics are already pretty good, so what is the point aside from ripping off some fools with a full price re-release?

 

There are so many good games from the PS1-Ps3 era that would do well with a remaster or remake, just look at how well Final Fantasy 7, Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot have been doing, games from ancient PS1 series that were worthy of a new version because they came out before many of todays ps community members were even alive. There is also the option to make entirely new games, shocking idea I know, how dare I expect such an effort, but not this shit again, most people will just wait until it is free on Psplus anyway.

[Tetho_mig]

18 minutes ago, Fr_0zt said:

Sitting here waiting for a Bloodborne 60 fps patch.... A fuken PATCH.  Is that too much to ask for!? 

From Software went on to creat other games and Sony Japan Studios were disbanded. So yes, it is unfortunately too much to ask from Sony -__-

Your best chanced for a 60fps/4k Bloodborne experience are that the remake rumours at Bluepoint are true.

[MatThaRiPP3R84]

they are only doing it so they have an excuse to sell a MP component for the full price. 

[Berzerkgod313]

1 hour ago, Sendai-Horatio said:

So if they remaster Twisted Metal what's it going to be? The first two games and then Black?

 

I can't imagine people wanting to play 3 and 4.

 

3 was my favorite by far over the others, maybe just because I played that one the most, but I did own the others as well so I don't know I do feel like I remember it being the best of the bunch, although 2 was close behind. If they're going to do a compilation of remasters of older titles, I'd rather they include all of them, and be done with it. Same with THPS, wish we would have just gotten 3 and 4 with it as well, now it seems we'll never get it, not on PS4/PS5 anyways.

[Viper]

Boy, I can't wait for the PS6 and the entire library ends up being just remastered PS5 games....which are just remastered PS4 games....that remastered PS3 games. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Viper

[KenjiCBZ]

Bruh.

[EightBitArtist]

hearing this news bums me out because of the socom/guerilla games rumor. if they are doing a HZD multiplayer game, that pretty much ends the chances of them working on a socom game.

 

sony has been fucking up so hard with this shit. i play way more indie games then i do AAA games anymore.

[TheRedMaverick]

I thought TLOU remake was bad...this is even worse lmao. Soon they'll announce a Ghost of Tsushima remake

[James Tiger]

Wasn't PS5 had tons of PS4 remastered games already ?

Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy, Spiderman, GTA5, DMC5, Nioh, blah blah blah

 

Then why is everybody complaining about HZD getting a remaster ?

(Maybe people were complaing before but I missed it)

[MD_91]

I just started playing this for the first time yesterday and it still looks great (not that it's at all a surprise that a game released in 2017 looks good, it's nothing like the jump 2007 to 2012 was)

 

I think this trend of remastering PS4 games that are already playable on PS5 is idiotic but there's enough people seemingly happy to buy them so whatever, it's easy money for Sony 

[mega-tallica]

2 hours ago, The Alchemist said:

I've never understood why people get so up in arms about remasters, not just recent PlayStation remasters, but remasters in general even going back to the PS4 generation. 

 

It's very easy to understand; many people want new games and new experiences. Instead what we're getting mostly with the past couple of generations of consoles is a lot of remasters and remakes of games most people have already played with just a new coat of paint slapped on it. 

 

New games are still being made, yeah, but I think many (myself included) would say the quality of these new games are suffering. The gaps of new AAA games getting released is getting larger and larger and filling these gaps are all these remasters instead. If the industry wasn't so crazed about remasters, I think we'd already have GTA6 out, The Last Of Us Part III, Uncharted 5... but we don't have any of those games, they are all still a long ways off and instead we get bombarded with remasters and remakes of previous games in the series from these developers. People are buying and playing these re-releases because the industry is not producing much else worth playing otherwise. If you aren't playing these remasters, you're not going to have much else to play that's worth playing. We play them because that's all we're getting. 

 

This is why there is such a negative stigma around remasters. What does the future hold? We're just going to re-release the same games every time a new console comes out that is slightly more powerful? Charge people $40-$70 because the blades of grass look slightly better in the new version? I think it's ridiculous and it sets a bad precedent, one the industry has already fallen into. 

 

Remasters aren't an inherently bad thing until it is. I think there are a lot of games of the past that are worth remastering but lo and behold, those aren't the ones that get remastered. It's the recently released games that are easy for developers to slap a new coat of paint on that get the remaster treatment in most cases. We're at the point where a game like Life Is Strange has gotten remastered, The Last of Us, not even a 10 year old game, has already been re-released twice as has GTA5. 

 

Games like the original Crash trilogy and Spyro getting remade are the kinds of games that should be getting remade and remastered, there's a lot of value in the remakes that goes well beyond just a new coat of paint. They're a modern reimagining and experience of true classic games. I wish all PS1 and PS2 games got remade with that level of attention put into them, I'd be in heaven. There's a significant jump in modern technology from back when the originals were released that warrant a remake. PS3 games getting remastered to PS4? Okay, that's understandable for some games but PS4 to PS5? It's such a small jump in performance and capability that it's almost negligible which makes the idea of remastering PS4 games for PS5 even more ridiculous and unnecessary. 

 

I mean I get it if Sony is seeing Forbidden West as an underwhelming release and they want to recoup some more easy cash back off the franchise with an easy, quick remaster of Zero Dawn, probably outsourced to another developer like they normally do for remasters. That, I get. I don't agree with it but I get it. It's business but I think this practice is hurting the industry a lot and is making consumers like me lose faith in it altogether and the future of gaming if this is what it's come to. I'd rather be a bit melodramatic than complacent with this trend. 

[Dangisuckatgamin]

I'm losing more and more interest in the PS5 the more they just keep giving us the same games remastered and remade lol.

[xh117]

3 hours ago, Sendai-Horatio said:

So if they remaster Twisted Metal what's it going to be? The first two games and then Black?

 

I can't imagine people wanting to play 3 and 4.

I want 3 maybe 4 too.

[kanzenchaos]

I'll pass, saving up for the inevitable God of War: Ragnarok remake.

[AJ_Radio]

5 hours ago, JediKnight_327 said:

I'm not liking the pattern of Sony going back and changing stuff from how it was originally created. They've already messed with TLOU and spider-man character models, It comes across as unprofessional and disrespectful to the original team of designers and developers.

I’m the same. 
 

Why not remake Resistance: Fall of Man and Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction? Oh that’s right, those are old games from 2006 - 2007 that get little if any attention from gamers anymore. 
 

All those old PS1/PS2 greats from generations past? Too risky. Too much backfire if the projects fail. 
 

Remaking The Last of Us and Horizon Zero Dawn is far more profitable because we know they’re still relevant to modern gaming. They still generate popularity, so why not make “moar money”?
 

Meanwhile Ubisoft drags their feet with the Prince of Persia remake, which may as well be Assassin’s Creed Mirage because nobody gives a damn about Prince of Persia anymore. 
 

No new Rayman game. Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell, let’s change how Sam Fisher is being handled. 
 

Naughty Dog on Twitter, “We can’t come up with any original ideas anymore. But we’ve remade an all time classic from a decade ago, complete with a new layer of paint, all for the low, low price of $70, for the PS5”. 
 

Guerrilla Games on Twitter, “We’re sorry we had to shut down the online on your favorite Killzone games. But you can look forward to a remake of our favorite game, Horizon Zero Dawn, coming soon for the price of $70. Get your preorders in and get ready to jump back in with Aloy!”. 
 

Sony, you’re losing my respect quicker than my hourglass runs out of sand.

[jaehyun1009]

On paper this sounds like a cool idea, but this just reeks of profiteering with minimal amount of actual work done.

 

I should know better than to pile on with the pessimism, but the sheer greed displayed by many A+++ devs made me a grumpy old man. I could delve into this topic as much as I want, but I would be writing a research paper at that point.

Edited October 3, 2022 by jaehyun1009

[BrandedBerserk]

Yet another instance of gamers moaning over absolutely nothing.. I'm convinced a lot of yall just love being miserable.

Edited October 3, 2022 by BrandedBerserk

[TheRetroManiac]

I would much rather PS3 games or PS2 games get shown the love they deserve, no point in remastering games that have not even been out all that long just make it make sense the PS5 plays PS4 games, so what's the point in doing this? I would much rather a trilogy remaster of the Killzone series or even the Resistance series over this.